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    Re: AZ shooting victim arrested for making death threats against Tea Party leader

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    I think CC is saying he was suffering from PTSD even before shooting. I read that he had it from his time in the military.
    Not excusing him in anyway, but that's what I read. I just hope they don't let him loose until they're sure he's no danger to anyone.
    Regardless...nothing in the week following the shooting nor the town hall meeting can be attributed to PTSD. He has been very specific in the targets of his anger and they have nothing to do with his past, his shooting, his outburst, but will more than likely be used as an excuse. Every indicator that I have read, article that I have seen and interview from him has demonstrated a bitter, angry, pissed off guy that is commited to his hatred and blame of the wrong people.

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    Re: Shooting Victim Threatens Tea Partier

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    American Leftists see American Conservatives as an existential threat. American Conservatives see American Leftists as an existential threat. Neither side sees China as an existential threat.

    The conflict between the American Left and Right will have to be allowed to play itself out and the consequences be damned. One side must win and the other side must lose before the country can act effectively with respect to any foreign threat.
    I don't think any 'side' ever really wins. Our political cycle clearly reflects that. One side wins on promises, doesn't honor those promises, other side gets elected, doesn't honor their promises, first side comes back, etc, etc.

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    Re: Shooting Victim Threatens Tea Partier

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Anyone hear that the two parties are going to sit together for the State of the Union Address. I know that's only symbolic, but it's a good thing in my opinion.
    That doesn't mean I don't think political discourse is a healthy thing, because I do. I also think our leaders in Congress could be a little more civil with each other.
    Wow, really? That's very interesting. It probably is only symbolic, but it might reinvigorate some confidence into the political system from the public. Little things like these add up.

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    Re: AZ shooting victim arrested for making death threats against Tea Party leader

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Sweet Jerry - read all my other posts - especially my most recent.

    If he was in a therapist's office or a support group he could say whatever he wanted to. Getting angry at a victim when they're angry isn't going to diffuse the situation. that doesn't make his threat excusable - but it give precedent to intervene and sequester him for observation and clinical intervention.

    But, no, I still don't think less of him - he's just struggling to deal with happened to him, that's all. If I had my way - he'd get help and get better. If everyone else had their way he'd just be a walking time bomb.

    Somehow people think that him serving a little bit of jail time would FIX him - in fact - I think it would make him WORSE because not only would be blame the shooting on the Tea Party or whoever - he'd blame his prison time on them, too.
    When you threaten the life of a government official, you're the perp, not the victim.

    I hope this piece of **** gets life.

    Let him keep blaming people, eventually he'll probably mouth off to the wrong person and get shot again. Hopefully that criminal will have better aim.
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    Re: AZ shooting victim arrested for making death threats against Tea Party leader

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Let him keep blaming people, eventually he'll probably mouth off to the wrong person and get shot again. Hopefully that criminal will have better aim.
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    That's an awful mindset. Are you for real?

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    Re: AZ shooting victim arrested for making death threats against Tea Party leader

    Quote Originally Posted by iamitter View Post
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    That's an awful mindset. Are you for real?
    Fo rizzle dawg, yuuuaaah.

    Oh you got shot, fine, file a suit, call the shooter every name in the book, hell I'll help you.

    Go full retard and start threatening the lives of people who had nothing to do with it, **** you you're the piece of **** now.


    ("you" as in the retard, not iamitter)

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    Re: AZ shooting victim arrested for making death threats against Tea Party leader

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    When you threaten the life of a government official, you're the perp, not the victim.

    I hope this piece of **** gets life.

    Let him keep blaming people, eventually he'll probably mouth off to the wrong person and get shot again. Hopefully that criminal will have better aim.
    Ah - unless the person is really ****edi n the head there is NO life sentence for merely threatening to kill someone.

    It just doesn't work that way - we have set sentences for certain crimes. "life" is not given out like candy at a parade.
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    Re: Shooting Victim Threatens Tea Partier

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Thanks but no thanks. You haven't proven anything without showing the context. Was I being sarcastic? Was I posting as a retort to someone calling him a rightwinger?
    I told you I probably said things like that, but I'm 99% sure I never tried to really portray him as a liberal, because it's been obvious from the beginning that he is neither right nor left.
    You started a thread with that title. You made those comments. Are you now claiming that you were being sarcastic? So, you used inflamatory language as a retort? As I have been saying THAT is part of the problem.
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    Re: AZ shooting victim arrested for making death threats against Tea Party leader

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Que? Hogwash. PTSD??? He voluntarily went to the town hall meeting. The reports state he boo'd and hissed throughout it. He wasnt triggered by anything done or said at the town hall meeting. His behaviors during the interviews on the previous day indicated his mindset and bias. He is an admitted political activist and obviously biased.
    And all that is irrelevant to the fact that he suffers from PTSD and the shooting undoubtedly worsened the condition.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    Re: AZ shooting victim arrested for making death threats against Tea Party leader

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Regardless...nothing in the week following the shooting nor the town hall meeting can be attributed to PTSD. He has been very specific in the targets of his anger and they have nothing to do with his past, his shooting, his outburst, but will more than likely be used as an excuse. Every indicator that I have read, article that I have seen and interview from him has demonstrated a bitter, angry, pissed off guy that is commited to his hatred and blame of the wrong people.
    Again. Irrelevant. His PTSD triggered his intense and outrageous reaction. Similar to the fact that the shooter's mental illness created his intense and outrageous behavior. It doesn't excuse it. But it does explain it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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