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    Re: AZ shooting victim arrested for making death threats against Tea Party leader

    Quote Originally Posted by soccerboy22 View Post
    Honestly, it probably has more to do with his mental state in where he places blame. He obviously needed mental help, and as CC said blame can be misplaced, because these people are not of rational mind. Does it excuse what he did? No. But it may offer some reasoning to why he is acting the way he did.
    I would buy into that notion...had I not heard his interview from yesterday.

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    Re: AZ shooting victim arrested for making death threats against Tea Party leader

    Quote Originally Posted by iamitter View Post
    Yes, but see, I'm not making a presumption. Where did I ever say he was NOT influenced by the media? He could have been - this I freely admit. A lot of things could be. However, as there is no proof of this as of now, it is wrong of us to presume.
    So listen to his comments from YESTERDAY. Not only his, but the obviously slanted biased people he is being interviewed by. And then this happens today.

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    Re: AZ shooting victim arrested for making death threats against Tea Party leader

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Oh...update...here is his interview with "Democracy Now"...dateline...14 January. Thats yesterday.



    Nah...he's not a moronic biased liberal. And the truth...well...yet another casualty in this whole sad ordeal.
    I listened to the interview. Yes, he's clearly a biased liberal. I completely agree. Right before he talks about Palin, Beck, etc., he also gives evidence he was traumatized by the event (as anyone would be).

    I still fail to see what the media has to do with this. Where did they incite his death threat?

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    Re: AZ shooting victim arrested for making death threats against Tea Party leader

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Apologies and retractions are in order from those on the right who claimed that Loughner was a liberal. Apologies and retractions are in order from those on the right for those who are "birthers". You want me to go on? You want to focus on ONE side. ONE side didn't start or perpetuate this... no matter how badly you want/need it to be true. This goes back far further than Saturday.
    Focusing on one side or the other is stupid. There are crazy people everywhere. The fact is Loughner and this guy have different backgrounds and different things have caused and played a role in their emotional states, so they can't be compared as identical except for politics.

    Furthermore, I am more concerned about the safety of this president, more than any other president in my life and my feelings seem to be common. So now assassinations of political figures are a real to me... Lincoln and JFK are immortalized as tragic figures. I don't want to see a president murdered and remember where I was that time and day... It's not really a left or right thing, when somebody dies or something tragic happens in the country you need to shut your mouth and show the dead respect. You should rebuke others for being disrespectful when these tragedies strike, and there has been disrespect on BOTH sides.

    What happened in AZ is a tragedy, a child was killed and this guy happens to be a victim.. Loughner and him are not the same. Also this guy has a chance to get help and I pray he does.

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    Re: Shooting Victim Threatens Tea Partier

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Noodle, I see exactly what is going on. It's more demonization of the right for political gain. It's as simple as that.
    If this is what you see, this is more evidence that you cannot see anything but half a story.
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    Re: Shooting Victim Threatens Tea Partier

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    I havenít bothered with any of the Palin threads because I donít like her and have no interest in what those who hate her are saying.


    Looks like you are as guilty as I am when it comes to making assumptions doesnít it?
    Problem is, I've mentioned it in threads that have nothing to do about Palin... including this one. So, in an effort to prove me wrong, you have, instead, proven yourself wrong twice.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    Re: Shooting Victim Threatens Tea Partier

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Point out those who tried to blame the left. Not those who pointed out he seemed more left than right, but those who actually blamed the left.
    The media, the sheriff and even some politicians blamed the right. They took and ran with the sheriff's opinions. NYT refuses to retract any of the lies. They say that's up to Krugman. So until they do, many people will go on believing the lies.
    I'm not blaming anyone but loughner for the shooting.
    I am blaming the left for everything that has happened since.
    YOU made accusations towards the left by claiming that Loughner was a lefty. So, since you are all into retractions of lies and misinformation, how about retracting.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    Re: Shooting Victim Threatens Tea Partier

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post

    I don't think the media blaming Palin and talk radio is silly. I think it's vicious and nothing but lies for political gain.
    They were trying to use the shooting as a crisis that shouldn't be wasted.
    Both sides have been saying idiotic things for political gain. You only see one side because that's all you WANT to see.

    Saying that loughner was just as likely to be left as right is not a lie.
    Except that's NOT what YOU have said. Are you NOW claiming that he could be either? If so, can we take that as a retraction?

    When someone says he talked about the gold standard, so must be a rightwinger, I can say one of his favorite reads was the Communist Manifesto. That is not a lie and that's not placing blame on the left.
    It is as much of a mischaracterization as what those on the left do. Shows you are part of the problem.

    I haven't seen the right blame the left for the shooting. I've only seen them defending themselves against the lies of the left.
    I have no problem with the defending. But to think that the right has not shot back idiot accusations and attacks is either you living in a hole, or you just refusing to acknowledge reality.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    Re: AZ shooting victim arrested for making death threats against Tea Party leader

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    He threatened a tea party leader. That's acceptable.
    Point out where anyone at DP said it was acceptable.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: AZ shooting victim arrested for making death threats against Tea Party leader

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I would buy into that notion...had I not heard his interview from yesterday.
    The interview does not alter the accuracy of my statements about Fuller.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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