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    Re: Women Should Be Allowed in Combat Units, Report Says

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    I was saying that their army is no joke, and quite capable of defending Israel.
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    Wrong. Man or man, or more accurately person for person, Israel has one of if not the best fighting force in the world.
    Israel has one of the best fighting forces in the world, but the reason I said America, is because the US gives Israel large amounts of military and financial aid, which seriously helps them.
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    Re: Women Should Be Allowed in Combat Units, Report Says

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    … Israel has one of the best fighting forces in the world, but the reason I said America, is because the US gives Israel large amounts of military and financial aid, which seriously helps them.
    Which is basically irrelevant to this thread but thanks. What is relevant is the Israeli military is an effective fighting force despite depending on women to provide important contributions to its overall combat capability.
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    Re: Women Should Be Allowed in Combat Units, Report Says

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    You've meet men who didn't make it through boot camp because they weren't strong enough? Are you sure? I saw a few of those that had difficulties but they either got washed back or did remedial traning. The only ones I saw thrown out had physical defects missed in the orginal physicals or punched a drill instructor.

    I can see being washed out in Airborne, Rangers, Seals, Special Forces etc. but boot camp?
    Yep - simply didn't have the body or physical response desired. . . not all men are capable of gaining adequate musle.

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    Re: Women Should Be Allowed in Combat Units, Report Says

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    Israel has one of the best fighting forces in the world, but the reason I said America, is because the US gives Israel large amounts of military and financial aid, which seriously helps them.
    The only part relevant to the discussion is the bold part.
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    Re: Women Should Be Allowed in Combat Units, Report Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    I agree that it isn't in human biology for men to protect women. Personally, I blame it on the history of western civ, with women being seen as weak and lower than men and thus needing protection. If this had not occurred, there would likely be a large amount of women who are able to fend for themselves.

    Not exactly accurate.

    Until the invention of guns, combat was very physical. Upper body strength, muscle mass, skeletal density and the ability to endure intense exertion while wearing heavy armor were all requirements for soldiers and warriors in primitive times. Very few women (if any, given the lack of modern conditioning methods) could compete with men when combats were fought with warhammers in 50 lbs of full plate armor.

    When it comes to fighting with muscle-powered weapons, women are indeed weaker and more fragile than men, and in need of male protection.

    Personal firearms are the only thing that really changes that equation (aside from exceptions like the 1 woman in ~50,000 who can actually compete with equally-conditioned men... but even so, in Olympic athletic competition men's records usually exceed women's. We've posted the stats on this before.)

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    Re: Women Should Be Allowed in Combat Units, Report Says

    I think woman should be able to go into combat, for one week, every month

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    Re: Women Should Be Allowed in Combat Units, Report Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Not exactly accurate.

    Until the invention of guns, combat was very physical. Upper body strength, muscle mass, skeletal density and the ability to endure intense exertion while wearing heavy armor were all requirements for soldiers and warriors in primitive times. Very few women (if any, given the lack of modern conditioning methods) could compete with men when combats were fought with warhammers in 50 lbs of full plate armor.

    When it comes to fighting with muscle-powered weapons, women are indeed weaker and more fragile than men, and in need of male protection.

    Personal firearms are the only thing that really changes that equation (aside from exceptions like the 1 woman in ~50,000 who can actually compete with equally-conditioned men... but even so, in Olympic athletic competition men's records usually exceed women's. We've posted the stats on this before.)
    Does anyone still fight with muscle-powered weapons?

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    Re: Women Should Be Allowed in Combat Units, Report Says

    Quote Originally Posted by kerussll View Post
    Does anyone still fight with muscle-powered weapons?

    It happens on occasion, yes. I've done it. A buddy of mine killed a man HTH in a tunnel in Viet Nam, also, in a fight involving a hatchet and a knife.

    It isn't the norm anymore, of course... but infantry soldiers with m4 rifles commonly hump 50 to 100 lbs or more of ammo and gear on their persons, for miles across rough terrain. Not all men can do that, and considerably fewer women.

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    Re: Women Should Be Allowed in Combat Units, Report Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    It happens on occasion, yes. I've done it. A buddy of mine killed a man HTH in a tunnel in Viet Nam, also, in a fight involving a hatchet and a knife.

    It isn't the norm anymore, of course... but infantry soldiers with m4 rifles commonly hump 50 to 100 lbs or more of ammo and gear on their persons, for miles across rough terrain. Not all men can do that, and considerably fewer women.
    Vietnam was a long time ago. You never hear about soldiers fighting like that anymore. No, not all people can carry that weight and hike for miles. Which is why there are physical requirements to be put into combat.

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    Re: Women Should Be Allowed in Combat Units, Report Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    I think woman should be able to go into combat, for one week, every month
    The enemy needs to be dealt with with a steady and accurate mind and hand.
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