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    Re: Women Should Be Allowed in Combat Units, Report Says

    Quote Originally Posted by ender1 View Post
    Women should not be allowed in combat units. Not because they cant handle it or are not physically able to. Its because there is a primal instinct for a man to protect women. I believe there would be issuse with the men making sound desitions when a woman was in a life and death situation.
    Have you seen some of the women that want to be in a combat role or live like a man? I wounldn't have a problem not protecting them and some don't even like men if you know what I mean.

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    Re: Women Should Be Allowed in Combat Units, Report Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    It's not breed in men to protect women, that is all social conditioning.
    I agree that it isn't in human biology for men to protect women. Personally, I blame it on the history of western civ, with women being seen as weak and lower than men and thus needing protection. If this had not occurred, there would likely be a large amount of women who are able to fend for themselves.
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    Re: Women Should Be Allowed in Combat Units, Report Says

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    But the woman only have 2/3's the strength of men.
    Most women - sure
    But I've met some hardcore women who are every bit as strong and capable as men of their same weight and height bracket - trust me - they're out there.

    While at the same time I've met some men who COULDN'T meet the 'average male strength' capabilities and who didn't make it through boot-camp. . . why is that never harped on?

    I don't see how babying down the strength and capability requirements because of gender differences is going to HELP in a battle or war situation - I think it only hurts.
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    Re: Women Should Be Allowed in Combat Units, Report Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    I am not saying that you do not have that impulse, but you weren't born with it.

    And I would need someone with combat experience to confirm this, but I'm assuming that on the battlefield a soldier would resort to their training, not primal instincts
    Even with training you don't know how you'll react when the lead starts flying or the mortars come down all around you. Some people freak and sometimes it's people you would never have thought would freak. I watched a guy start balling just because he thought we had another gas alert drill and he was boiling in his protective gear. He stopped crying when he realized I had imitated a concussion grenade (our signal to go in mop) by tapping my helmet on the tarmac. This was a big strapping guy but turned out to be a big baby.
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    Re: Women Should Be Allowed in Combat Units, Report Says

    Separate units, separate combat roles, and there are no issues left.
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    Re: Women Should Be Allowed in Combat Units, Report Says

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    How civil of you.
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    Re: Women Should Be Allowed in Combat Units, Report Says

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    But the woman only have 2/3's the strength of men.
    You are looking at averages. One of the hands down strongest ordnanceman I knew in the was a woman, and another women in that job, while she could not lift quite as much, could lift enough and could keep doing it well past the point the guys where all needing to take a break. The military is not average.
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    Re: Women Should Be Allowed in Combat Units, Report Says

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    Have you seen some of the women that want to be in a combat role or live like a man? I wounldn't have a problem not protecting them and some don't even like men if you know what I mean.
    Hehe, no I dont know any personally. But I have male friends in combat units. This was more their logic than mine. It seams sound though.

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    Re: Women Should Be Allowed in Combat Units, Report Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    You are looking at averages. One of the hands down strongest ordnanceman I knew in the was a woman, and another women in that job, while she could not lift quite as much, could lift enough and could keep doing it well past the point the guys where all needing to take a break. The military is not average.
    But they are human. They don't suddenly morph into amazon women when they step on the battlefield. I will stick to my guns, I think it's bad for many reasons, biggest one being that no woman should have to shower or bathe in close quarters with any man not her husband. The issue of men protecting women first is a close second.

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    Re: Women Should Be Allowed in Combat Units, Report Says

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    But they are human. They don't suddenly morph into amazon women when they step on the battlefield. I will stick to my guns, I think it's bad for many reasons, biggest one being that no woman should have to shower or bathe in close quarters with any man not her husband. The issue of men protecting women first is a close second.
    None of which addresses my comments.
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