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    Re: Women Should Be Allowed in Combat Units, Report Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    If soldiers are too immature to cope with sexuality, then why are we assigning them authority over the lives of innocent bystanders?
    Most NCO's and officers are not 17-19 year old kids fresh from high school. That is who is doing the fighting. It is the reality of the situation.
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    Re: Women Should Be Allowed in Combat Units, Report Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    If soldiers are too immature to cope with sexuality, then why are we assigning them authority over the lives of innocent bystanders?
    Because, that's just the way things are. That's how our society works and no amount of social engineering in the military is going to change that.
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    Re: Women Should Be Allowed in Combat Units, Report Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Most NCO's and officers are not 17-19 year old kids fresh from high school. That is who is doing the fighting. It is the reality of the situation.
    The average soldier must still have the same tactical authority as the average police officer, who also wields authority over the lives of innocent bystanders. Discipline and training are supposed to offset the disadvantages of youth.
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    Re: Women Should Be Allowed in Combat Units, Report Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    The average soldier must still have the same tactical authority as the average police officer, who also wields authority over the lives of innocent bystanders.
    Your basic combat E2 and E3 has little to no authority over anyone. That's why we have NCO's and officers. Who have more training and most of the time experience.
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    Re: Women Should Be Allowed in Combat Units, Report Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    The average soldier must still have the same tactical authority as the average police officer, who also wields authority over the lives of innocent bystanders. Discipline and training are supposed to offset the disadvantages of youth.
    Plus, lots and lots of adult supervision.
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    Re: Women Should Be Allowed in Combat Units, Report Says

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    Your basic combat E2 and E3 has little to no authority over anyone. That's why we have NCO's and officers.
    They can't refer to their NCOs in a split second encounter involving civilians. Not enough time.

    Plus, lots and lots of adult supervision.
    That argument doesn't work. If what your saying is true, we have to stop taking voluntary recruits from out of high school and start drafting from among people in their 20s.

    To the extent immaturity does exist among soldiers, it has to be purged, not indulged.
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    Re: Women Should Be Allowed in Combat Units, Report Says

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Which kinda illustrates my point, which is that, there isn't enough evidence to support the notion that co-ed infantry units are successful.
    Depends on what you define as enough evidence, or evidence at all. I don't see a problem with the Caracal battalion, which exists now for 11 years.
    You basically argue against the existence of such battalion, am I somehow incorrect and misleading on your argument's purpose?

    That's the same as the United States military.
    Indeed I guess.

    Fighter pilots don't live in the field, together in the way that combat arms units do.
    Correct but they train far harder on combat and survival skills than your regular front line unit fighter.
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    Re: Women Should Be Allowed in Combat Units, Report Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    They can't refer to their NCOs in a split second encounter involving civilians. Not enough time.
    You can play the "what if" game all day. It does not change the reality's of military life and the rigors of combat, period. It makes women in combat less than desirable.
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    Re: Women Should Be Allowed in Combat Units, Report Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    They can't refer to their NCOs in a split second encounter involving civilians. Not enough time.
    That's why they call it the, "fog of war".
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    Re: Women Should Be Allowed in Combat Units, Report Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Your basic combat E2 and E3 has little to no authority over anyone. That's why we have NCO's and officers. Who have more training and most of the time experience.
    as a deployed E3 I told the Iraqi's what to do all the time. Civilian, Police, and Army.

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