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    Re: Women Should Be Allowed in Combat Units, Report Says

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    At this point in time, women are not expected to pass the same requirements as men. Do you think that will change overnight? Or ever?

    Not to mention the other problems I could imagine from having coed infantry unit placed in a FOB for months, alone in ****ty conditions...
    I know that, and that is what I'm suggesting, if women are put up to the same test/training as men, and pass I see no reason why they shouldn't be able to enter combat units. Now I'm not sure how it would affect other aspects, but Tashah's suggestions reasonable. And obviously she probably has the most first hand experience with this kind of thing on the forum.
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    Re: Women Should Be Allowed in Combat Units, Report Says

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    I know that, and that is what I'm suggesting, if women are put up to the same test/training as men, and pass I see no reason why they shouldn't be able to enter combat units. Now I'm not sure how it would affect other aspects, but Tashah's suggestions reasonable. And obviously she probably has the most first hand experience with this kind of thing on the forum.
    Well, note that she specifically pointed to segregated units. IMO, she's right there. Attachment to specific "strike forces" may be viable, but living coed for months under typical infantry conditions is not. And I don't say this because of the physical testing requirements--which some women could pass (even though I doubt they'd ever be made the same in our country)--but for reasons of hygiene, health, unit cohesion/morale, and general combat effectiveness.

    And I'm not a woman, but I have lived for years as part of an infantry unit--I can tell you that when we were back in US we had enough problems involving civilian (and some military) women within every platoon in our company that to imagine such problems might extend to deployment would be a nightmare.

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    Re: Women Should Be Allowed in Combat Units, Report Says

    Women are perfectly capable of combat as the next guy and new restrictions like gender segregation have the effect of denying them the opportunities they have earned and deserve. There haven't been any well defined front lines since Korea (if then) and anybody in a combat zone had better be prepared for combat. Period.
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    Re: Women Should Be Allowed in Combat Units, Report Says

    With appropriate standards, it should be doable. Of course that is not the real question, the question is should we do it. That one is going to be purely opinion, but I have no problem with women serving in combat units.
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    Re: Women Should Be Allowed in Combat Units, Report Says

    Leftist women can be used to clear mine fields. Conservative women can be used as commanders.

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    Re: Women Should Be Allowed in Combat Units, Report Says

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    If women can pass the same requirements as men, and go through the same training as if they were men, I would see no problem with allowing them to enter combat units.
    I see a huge problem.

    It is bred into humans to be "protective" of women. Men will naturally try to protect a woman soldier more than a man, and in doing so, might make a fatal or stupid decision. His natural desire to be seen as "saving a woman's life" may get in the way of a smart military or combat decision. They also sometimes have to bathe and such in very tight and non-private quarters, which I think, is inappropriate.

    I think women are great in other roles, but front line combat needs to remain all men.
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    Re: Women Should Be Allowed in Combat Units, Report Says

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    If women can pass the same requirements as men, and go through the same training as if they were men, I would see no problem with allowing them to enter combat units.
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    Re: Women Should Be Allowed in Combat Units, Report Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    Roger that. I would advise some pratical guidelines...

    - Devise meaningful combat qualification screening for females
    - Segregated combat units
    - Mobilized female strike forces

    Offhand, I can't think of too many other modifications due to gender differences.


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    Re: Women Should Be Allowed in Combat Units, Report Says

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Females aren't barred from airborne training in the U.S. military.
    Really? That is kinda odd to me for some reason.

    Unit cohesion could be a potential problem, and there would need to be a plan in place before I could say whether I actually supported the full change or not. In theory, it is workable and as such I think we should at least look seriously into doing it.
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    Re: Women Should Be Allowed in Combat Units, Report Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    Leftist women can be used to clear mine fields. Conservative women can be used as commanders.
    Soooooooo funny... I forgot to laugh...

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