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    Re: Women Should Be Allowed in Combat Units, Report Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    From the Gratuitous Dept. Quite common in Israel...




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    Re: Women Should Be Allowed in Combat Units, Report Says

    A few days ago I happened to meet a military forensic psychiatrist who has been to Afghanistan and Iraq. He says that combat unties have a proportionally large number of psychopaths who are in the military to kill human beings. Some of those men will also rape and kill women without hesitation. In fact some of these psychos that the Dr. was dealing with had killed women and children for fun. In combat itís easy to kill innocent people who are in the line of fire and some of the psychos killed themselves later so that they wouldnít have to go home. The Dr. looked at a lot of suicides and said that some were for good reasons.

    Combat psychopaths are a danger to the weakest in their unit and I donít want our young women out there with them.

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    Re: Women Should Be Allowed in Combat Units, Report Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron River View Post
    A few days ago I happened to meet a military forensic psychiatrist who has been to Afghanistan and Iraq. He says that combat unties have a proportionally large number of psychopaths who are in the military to kill human beings. Some of those men will also rape and kill women without hesitation. In fact some of these psychos that the Dr. was dealing with had killed women and children for fun. In combat it’s easy to kill innocent people who are in the line of fire and some of the psychos killed themselves later so that they wouldn’t have to go home. The Dr. looked at a lot of suicides and said that some were for good reasons.

    Combat psychopaths are a danger to the weakest in their unit and I don’t want our young women out there with them.

    I think you are vastly overstating the presence of psychotics or sociopaths in the military. There may be a few, yes... but I'd have to see sourced evidence before I'd believe that was common enough to be a valid concern.

    I've known snipers, special-ops soldiers, Rangers, green berets, and Marines. I've known plenty of soldiers who have made their kills... but I have yet to know a soldier who was an outright psychopath.

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    Re: Women Should Be Allowed in Combat Units, Report Says

    I had no idea until just now they weren't allowed to be a part of combat units.

    Surely a flat prohibition is not the best solution. Women who are capable should be allowed to participate.

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    Re: Women Should Be Allowed in Combat Units, Report Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    From the Gratuitous Dept. Quite common in Israel...



    These are among the images that I remember from my time in Israel. I had never been anywhere where people carried military rifles on the streets in public, and the fact it many where women just caused my jaw to drop.
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    Re: Women Should Be Allowed in Combat Units, Report Says

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Are you ****ing kidding me?

    Reality check, women cannot, as a general rule, physically handle the rigors of combat. This is why female PRT and male PRT are DIFFERENT. How's the platoon going to handle one or more members unable to carry the normal full load out of equipment into the field? Start there, work your way through the rest of the reasons women aren't in combat roles.

    This isn't just dumb, it's politically motivated politically correct stupidity that's gonna get people killed in the name of "fairness".
    If they segregated the units by gender and women had to abide by the same physical and dicipline standards as their male counterparts in the combat units then I might support allowing women into combat MOSs. However we know that has about as much of a chance as Code Pink protesting that they want the Marine recruiting center to stay and they support the military recruiting soldiers and marines anywhere in Berkly.


    I suspect that the people on this military advisory committee never served a day in the military and if they have they were most likely what those in the Infantry and various other combat MOSs call POGs(pronounced pōg). It an acronym for persons other than grunt. It means non-combat soldiers, civilians in soldiers clothing.If you are in the infantry a pog is basically everybody in the military who is not a infantry soldier.
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    Re: Women Should Be Allowed in Combat Units, Report Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    the fact many were women just caused my jaw to drop.
    You didn't just misspell the word "pants" there, by any chance, did you?
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    Re: Women Should Be Allowed in Combat Units, Report Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    You didn't just misspell the word "pants" there, by any chance, did you?
    I was young and awestruck. That part never got past the want stage. Why Israeli women are so drop dead gorgeous I will never understand.
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    Re: Women Should Be Allowed in Combat Units, Report Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    You didn't just misspell the word "pants" there, by any chance, did you?
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    Re: Women Should Be Allowed in Combat Units, Report Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    1. If you think soldiers never, ever find themselves in a HTH situation in Iraq or Iran, then you are lacking in information or haven't thought this through adequately. I have some younger current-service buddies who have spent most of the last 10 years in the sandbox. It does happen on occasion.
    2. I'm not sure what your second point is, other than to agree with me that a certain level of upper-body strength (which not all males can achieve, and far fewer females) is necessary for placement in certain types of combat units.
    I'm not saying soldiers never fight hand to hand, but it is becoming increasingly rare. People certainly never fight in full metal body armor with war hammers like you were talking about :-P I may be lacking information about the subject though. Do you have a link you could give me about Americans engaging in hand to hand combat in Iraq?

    Of course I agree with you that certain levels of strength are required for combat. I don't think anyone on here has said anything to the contrary. Females need to be held to the same standards as men. Fewer women will be able to meet these standards, sure, but that doesn't mean those who can do it shouldn't be allowed in.

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