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    Re: Women Should Be Allowed in Combat Units, Report Says

    If women can go through the same exact training that men do and make it then I see no problem with women serving on the front lines so long as it is voluntary. Israel has already been doing that for several years now and I think that they have proven that women and men can fight along side each other on the front lines with little to no problems.
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    Re: Women Should Be Allowed in Combat Units, Report Says

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    People said that about black people too.
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    Re: Women Should Be Allowed in Combat Units, Report Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    I am not saying that you do not have that impulse, but you weren't born with it.

    And I would need someone with combat experience to confirm this, but I'm assuming that on the battlefield a soldier would resort to their training, not primal instincts
    And, you would assume wrong. It's primal instincts, such as a will to live and camaraderie, and yes, the instinct to be more protective of women than men.

    The IDF banned women from serving in combat arms units for a long time, because they noticed that men would fall out of an attack to help a wounded female, quicker than they would a wounded male and it weakened the attack.
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    Re: Women Should Be Allowed in Combat Units, Report Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Because they measure overall fitness level and are not tests to determine ability.
    If a person--male or female--can't do 60 pushups in 2 minutes, then that person probably doesn't have the necessary upper body strength to hump-a-ruck 25 miles and fight a firefight somewhere in between point A and point B.
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    Re: Women Should Be Allowed in Combat Units, Report Says

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    And, you would assume wrong. It's primal instincts, such as a will to live and camaraderie, and yes, the instinct to be more protective of women than men.

    The IDF banned women from serving in combat arms units for a long time, because they noticed that men would fall out of an attack to help a wounded female, quicker than they would a wounded male and it weakened the attack.
    The ridiculously HIGH rates of male on female domestic abuse would prove otherwise.
    So - which is it - they halt all action to run to the aid of the injured princess or they beat her half to death in the privacy of their own homes?

    If I had my way only the toughest most bitchingest 'don't touch me!' women would be anywhere near the battlefield.
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    Re: Women Should Be Allowed in Combat Units, Report Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    We've debated this before.
    Generalization in this regard is the wrong path to take.

    *Most* can't handle it (we all agree - *most* don't even join the military because it's not interesting to them so the pool that we're even referring to isn't "all women" - it's a small minority *of women*) - but *some* can handle it without qualm - and if *some* can then these *some* should be permitted to do what they prove capable of doing.

    I think women and men should be expected to be on the same level - which would actually reduce the number of women in the military altogether - but if you want to be in and equal then you should be all EQUAL in every regard.
    Maybe so, but that crack starts bleeding every month, like clockwork. What's going to happen when a platoon's strength is cut down significantly, because the female soldiers had to be dusted-off, with sick pussies?

    How about when a female soldier and male soldier are supposed to be manning a listening post/observation post and they have ****ing on their mind, rather than doing their job and keeping their comrades alive? People may die, that's what. And, it's gonna happen, let's not kid ourselves.


    For the third time, it's nothing to do with ability.
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    Re: Women Should Be Allowed in Combat Units, Report Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    The ridiculously HIGH rates of male on female domestic abuse would prove otherwise.
    So - which is it - they halt all action to run to the aid of the injured princess or they beat her half to death in the privacy of their own homes?

    If I had my way only the toughest most bitchingest 'don't touch me!' women would be anywhere near the battlefield.
    You're not comparing like demographics.

    Your garden variety wife beating piece-a-**** guy doesn't usually join the military.
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    Re: Women Should Be Allowed in Combat Units, Report Says

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If a person--male or female--can't do 60 pushups in 2 minutes, then that person probably doesn't have the necessary upper body strength to hump-a-ruck 25 miles and fight a firefight somewhere in between point A and point B.
    This could be, and if so it may very well be a good part of a test for any one to get a combat MOS. However, that is not the point of PFT as it is now.
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    Re: Women Should Be Allowed in Combat Units, Report Says

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    You've meet men who didn't make it through boot camp because they weren't strong enough? Are you sure? I saw a few of those that had difficulties but they either got washed back or did remedial traning. The only ones I saw thrown out had physical defects missed in the orginal physicals or punched a drill instructor.

    I can see being washed out in Airborne, Rangers, Seals, Special Forces etc. but boot camp?
    I knew a guy that got kicked out of BCT, because he couldn't pass his APFT. He was on third BCT cycle and they finally said **** it and kicked him out.

    Which was a shame, I thought, because his MOS was typewriter repair, or some pog other pog ass **** like that.
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    Re: Women Should Be Allowed in Combat Units, Report Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    This could be, and if so it may very well be a good part of a test for any one to get a combat MOS. However, that is not the point of PFT as it is now.
    Well, that may be the case in the Navy, but out there where the actual soldiers do their work--in combat arms units--it's a different story.

    The Army Physical Fitness Test (APFT) is designed to test the muscular strength/endurance and cardiovascular respiratory fitness of soldiers in the United States Army. Soldiers are given a score based on their performance in three events consisting of the push-up (PU), sit-up (SU), and a two-mile run. Possible scores range from 0 to 100 points in each event. A passing score is a total of 180 or higher with a minimum score of 60 in each event. [1] covers the administration of the APFT, as well as ways to conduct individual, squad and unit level physical training (PT) sessions and will be performed by close out formation.

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