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    Re: Russia nears arms pact approval, warns on pullout

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Then you both get bigger guns or better ammo to mitigate the affect of the armor, now the armor is for all practical purposes worthless and all that's been done is that each side now has a greater capacity for destruction.
    As long as I get the bigger gun and better armor first, I'm cool with that. That's how life works.

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    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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    Re: Russia nears arms pact approval, warns on pullout

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Let's say you and I have guns. We have them pointed at eachother. If one pulls the trigger, the other will do the same. We both die. Pretty unlikely that either of us would choose to do that. So we stand there, guns pointed.

    Then one day you see me start to put on a kevlar suit. Once I get the suit on, I have the advantage: I can kill you, but you can't kill me. Do you
    A) Allow me to put on the suit
    B) Pull the trigger before I get the suit on, while things are still equal
    Why dost thou trouble me? Russia isn't the problem in and of itself. In fact many on earth are racing ahead with missile defenses. China. Russia. Israel. You seem to think we are still in the First Nuclear Age. Things have evolved. Check this out and get back to me if you want to talk about nuclear weapons theory:

    Belmont Club » The Third Nuclear Age

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    Re: Russia nears arms pact approval, warns on pullout

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    http://www.mda.mil/global/documents/pdf/testrecord.pdf



    It looks pretty feasible to me. Apparently the Russians seem to think it’s feasible too. Landing a man on the moon wasn’t technologically feasible either, until we decided to do it. Look at how that turned out.

    Mad is almost as outdated as our nuclear arsenal.
    Shooting down intermediate range missiles and the world-ending intercontinental weapons are two entirely different things. Taking into account the number of warheads we're up against, the hellacious speed at which they travel, and the decoy/MIRV capability of those weapons, even 44 of 57 is laughable. It's armageddon. Anything short of 100% is useless.

    Unless the number of incoming warheads is reduced. If only there were some way to get Russia to reduce their arsenal...
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Russia nears arms pact approval, warns on pullout

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    As long as I get the bigger gun and better armor first, I'm cool with that. That's how life works.
    Ya except when it doesn't, like say after START...

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    Re: Russia nears arms pact approval, warns on pullout

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Shooting down intermediate range missiles and the world-ending intercontinental weapons are two entirely different things. Taking into account the number of warheads we're up against, the hellacious speed at which they travel, and the decoy/MIRV capability of those weapons, even 44 of 57 is laughable. It's armageddon. Anything short of 100% is useless.

    Unless the number of incoming warheads is reduced. If only there were some way to get Russia to reduce their arsenal...
    Why is Russia developing missile defenses?

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    Re: Russia nears arms pact approval, warns on pullout

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Shooting down intermediate range missiles and the world-ending intercontinental weapons are two entirely different things. Taking into account the number of warheads we're up against, the hellacious speed at which they travel, and the decoy/MIRV capability of those weapons, even 44 of 57 is laughable. It's armageddon. Anything short of 100% is useless.

    Unless the number of incoming warheads is reduced. If only there were some way to get Russia to reduce their arsenal...
    Hey its only 13 ICBMs with multiple hydrogen bomb warheads landing in the US, how bad can that be? O and the Russians have at least a thousand nuclear weapons, so thats 13 for every 57 nukes. But lets say its 13 for every 60, thats only 216 that get through!

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    Re: Russia nears arms pact approval, warns on pullout

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    Why is Russia developing missile defenses?
    Why are we?
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Russia nears arms pact approval, warns on pullout

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Shooting down intermediate range missiles and the world-ending intercontinental weapons are two entirely different things. Taking into account the number of warheads we're up against, the hellacious speed at which they travel, and the decoy/MIRV capability of those weapons, even 44 of 57 is laughable. It's armageddon. Anything short of 100% is useless.

    Unless the number of incoming warheads is reduced. If only there were some way to get Russia to reduce their arsenal...
    We’re getting a little off topic here Deuce. Before we go down this road, I have a question for you that is topic related:


    Did you argue for ratification of the New Start Treaty using the Obama claim that the treaty didn’t limit missile defense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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    Re: Russia nears arms pact approval, warns on pullout

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Why are we?
    Please don't answer a question with a question. After you answer my question I will graciously answer yours.

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    Re: Russia nears arms pact approval, warns on pullout

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    We’re getting a little off topic here Deuce. Before we go down this road, I have a question for you that is topic related:


    Did you argue for ratification of the New Start Treaty using the Obama claim that the treaty didn’t limit missile defense?
    It doesn't limit missile defense if that missile defense doesn't undermine ICBM capabilities.
    I.E. we can still develop missile defense aimed at short-intermediate range weapons, which is a likely threat from countries like Iran and North Korea.

    As for why I argue for ratification, missile defense is not the reason, no.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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