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Giffords shooting causes gun sales to skyrocket in Arizona, some buyers looking to st

In the wake of the Arizona shooting, are you more or less in favor of gun ownership?

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When Jared Lee Loughner opened fire on a crowd in Tucson Saturday, killing six and wounding Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and many more, reactions across America ranged from anger to grief to confusion. But some took the tragedy as a call to buy arms.

This is going to be, I'm afraid, a fairly controversial thread, and maybe I should not be bringing this up so soon after the Tucson tragedy. But, nevertheless, this needs to be said, so I'm saying it.

It seems that gun sales have doubled in some places in Arizona. In the aftermath of what happened there, I can understand the fear among some that there could be some proposals for restrictions of guns, in the wake of this senseless shooting rampage.

But, IMHO, there is another reason to own guns, and that was aptly demonstrated when a nutcase put 13 persons in the hospital, and 6 more in the ground. So here is the question I want to ask:

Had some of the people at the Giffords event been armed, do you believe the toll would have been less? I believe so, and it is incidents like this that affirm by belief in a strong support of the Second Amendment. An armed population is a safer population.

Some will argue that an armed population leads to incidents, such as happened in Arizona, but I am going to cut that argument off at the pass by stating the obvious - Where it is illegal to own guns, criminals will still get them. I say that law abiding citizens should be able to own them too. After all, this IS part of our Constitutional rights. Once more, I stand solidly behind the premise that an armed population is a safer population. You can't rely on the police to stop incidents like this, but you can sure enough get your hands on a Glock and do it yourself, before calling the police to report that a nutcase with a gun was shot to death before he completed his mission.

Now answer the poll.

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poll-what poll?
 
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Why no option for "Same"? I'm not any more against it or for it since this tragedy.
 
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Why no option for "Same"? I'm not any more against it or for it since this tragedy.

Oops. Good anwer. Can you do me a favor and add that option for me?
 
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Why no option for "Same"? I'm not any more against it or for it since this tragedy.

What Hugh said. This does not affect my opinion at all.

TD, for future reference, you add a poll after the post appears, so give people a couple minutes to type in the poll options and get it added.
 
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Oops. Good anwer. Can you do me a favor and add that option for me?

I got it.

890
 
Re: Giffords shooting causes gun sales to skyrocket in Arizona, some buyers looking t

Wow I guess gun sales haven't been this good since Obama became president. Fear apparently sells guns.
 
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When there are deranged citizens, mass confusion and armed people running around in stressful situations the toll of death will be lower? Are you able to work better when you have heavy metal music blasting into one ear and your wife screaming in the other? If anything all scientific evidence indicates that a human being is more likely to commit a mistake during such a situation.
 
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I got it.

890

Looks like Hugh got it too. Same is now in there twice. :rofl
 
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Looks like Hugh got it too. Same is now in there twice. :rofl

It's fixed now.
 
Re: Giffords shooting causes gun sales to skyrocket in Arizona, some buyers looking t

What Hugh said. This does not affect my opinion at all.

TD, for future reference, you add a poll after the post appears, so give people a couple minutes to type in the poll options and get it added.

thanks-timing is everything!
 
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When there are deranged citizens, mass confusion and armed people running around in stressful situations the toll of death will be lower? Are you able to work better when you have heavy metal music blasting into one ear and your wife screaming in the other? If anything all scientific evidence indicates that a human being is more likely to commit a mistake during such a situation.

If you are able to take a nutcase out before he gets very far with what he is doing, then yes, the death toll will be lower.
 
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I'd like to see a way to keep nut jobs from legally buying guns like the last four nutjobs that went on a rampage e.g. Columbine, Virginia Tech, Illinois, and now this one all bought guns and ammo up the whazzoo legally.

Yeah, yeah they will get them anyways blah, blah, blah. I don't agree.
 
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Looks like Hugh got it too. Same is now in there twice. :rofl

Hugh is sneaky like that, but handy!
 
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Wow I guess gun sales haven't been this good since Obama became president. Fear apparently sells guns.

libtards screaming for more gun control as a mindless emotional reaction to a tragedy causes that
 
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I'd like to see a way to keep nut jobs from legally buying guns like the last four nutjobs that went on a rampage e.g. Columbine, Virginia Tech, Illinois, and now this one all bought guns and ammo up the whazzoo legally.

Yeah, yeah they will get them anyways blah, blah, blah. I don't agree.

what's your solution?
 
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what's your solution?

You already know from another thread. Why are you asking me again?

Oh I l know. So you can hurl some insults. :roll:
 
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from the OP

Had some of the people at the Giffords event been armed, do you believe the toll would have been less? I believe so, and it is incidents like this that affirm by belief in a strong support of the Second Amendment. An armed population is a safer population.

That would be the hope. That would be the prayer. The reality is that a society where all of us or most of us walk around armed are ready to use our weapons could also have a negative side as folks lose their tempers, succumb to rage, and generally lose control in some confrontational situations which now result in the one fingered salute of a simple F YOU directed at somebody who offends them or cuts them off on the highway. That is not the society I want to live in.
 
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If you are able to take a nutcase out before he gets very far with what he is doing, then yes, the death toll will be lower.

Yes and if somebody had arrested him instead of giving him a warning he may not have shot people at all. What's the point of asking 'what if' if there is no way of knowing what may or may not have happened?
 
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libtards screaming for more gun control as a mindless emotional reaction to a tragedy causes that

So what's your point besides another mindless insult?
 
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Guns don't kill people...













the bullet does that part!
 
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Yes and if somebody had arrested him instead of giving him a warning he may not have shot people at all. What's the point of asking 'what if' if there is no way of knowing what may or may not have happened?

Arrested him for what? There was no evidence he had broken the law until he started firing. Nice try at a straw man, but I just burned him to the ground. :mrgreen:
 
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Everyone needs to remember that gun laws had NOTHING to do with the fact that the people present at this event were not armed. The reason they weren't armed was simply their own personal choice, Arizona has some of the most liberal gun laws in the country if they wanted to carry a weapon it would have been as easy as buying a pack of gum.

No one should think gun laws stood in the way of these people's ability to personally defend themselves with a weapon, or that less gun laws would have meant more of them would have been armed. Again its already so easy to buy a gun in Arizona that gun laws have almost nothing to do with the sale of a weapon, they primarily deal with what kinds of guns, and accessories, can and cannot be sold.

Lastly for those who believe gun laws do not work in the reduction of crime or violence, remember too that this man was only able to purchase a semi-automatic weapon. The primary argument I hear against gun control laws is that "criminals will get guns anyway" which is true to an extent. However if one thinks like a criminal its not too much of a strech to think some criminals would love to have a fully automatic weapon, however you rarely see crimes committed with fully automatic weapons. Why? Because they are illegal, their sale and manufacturing is closely regulated. So clearly in that case, gun laws have been successful in keeping deadlier weapons than those available to law abiding citizens off the black market.
 
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Guns don't kill people...












the bullet does that part!

The bullet does the damage, but it has no will of it's own. It takes a decision by a person to fire it. That's why we have the expression "Guns don't kill people, people do".
 
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