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    Re: Giffords shooting causes gun sales to skyrocket in Arizona, some buyers looking t

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Arrested him for what? There was no evidence he had broken the law until he started firing. Nice try at a straw man, but I just burned him to the ground.
    I think he's referring to his running a red light and being stopped for it a couple hours earlier.

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    Re: Giffords shooting causes gun sales to skyrocket in Arizona, some buyers looking t

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Everyone needs to remember that gun laws had NOTHING to do with the fact that the people present at this event were not armed. The reason they weren't armed was simply their own personal choice, Arizona has some of the most liberal gun laws in the country if they wanted to carry a weapon it would have been as easy as buying a pack of gum.

    No one should think gun laws stood in the way of these people's ability to personally defend themselves with a weapon, or that less gun laws would have meant more of them would have been armed. Again its already so easy to buy a gun in Arizona that gun laws have almost nothing to do with the sale of a weapon, they primarily deal with what kinds of guns, and accessories, can and cannot be sold.

    Lastly for those who believe gun laws do not work in the reduction of crime or violence, remember too that this man was only able to purchase a semi-automatic weapon. The primary argument I hear against gun control laws is that "criminals will get guns anyway" which is true to an extent. However if one thinks like a criminal its not too much of a strech to think some criminals would love to have a fully automatic weapon, however you rarely see crimes committed with fully automatic weapons. Why? Because they are illegal, their sale and manufacturing is closely regulated. So clearly in that case, gun laws have been successful in keeping deadlier weapons than those available to law abiding citizens off the black market.
    Yep that 9 year old girl could have been carrying and a happy NRA card holder.

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    Re: Giffords shooting causes gun sales to skyrocket in Arizona, some buyers looking t

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    If your solution had any merit you would be proud to post it again. frankly It must not have resonated with me since i don't remember
    Riiiiiight.

    It's actually in this thread but i guess you missed it.

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    Re: Giffords shooting causes gun sales to skyrocket in Arizona, some buyers looking t

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    Yep that 9 year old girl could have been carrying and a happy NRA card holder.
    that's rather stupid



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    Re: Giffords shooting causes gun sales to skyrocket in Arizona, some buyers looking t

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    Riiiiiight.

    It's actually in this thread but i guess you missed it.
    why do libs have such a hard time repeating what they think is a good idea.



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    Re: Giffords shooting causes gun sales to skyrocket in Arizona, some buyers looking t

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    The bullet does the damage, but it has no will of it's own. It takes a decision by a person to fire it. That's why we have the expression "Guns don't kill people, people do".
    I did not know that!

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    Re: Giffords shooting causes gun sales to skyrocket in Arizona, some buyers looking t

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    Every time something like this happens, people are always looking for a scapegoat. How about blaming the guy who pulled the trigger?
    Who's looking for a scapegoat? I'm just saying why make it easy for certifible nutjobs to kill people?

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    Re: Giffords shooting causes gun sales to skyrocket in Arizona, some buyers looking t

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    why do libs have such a hard time repeating what they think is a good idea.
    If you can't find it in such a short thread i can't help you. I've actually repeated it.

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    Re: Giffords shooting causes gun sales to skyrocket in Arizona, some buyers looking t

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that's rather stupid
    Hey I wasn't the one that said everyone there could have been carrying if it was their choice.

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    Re: Giffords shooting causes gun sales to skyrocket in Arizona, some buyers looking t

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    Who's looking for a scapegoat? I'm just saying why make it easy for certifible nutjobs to kill people?
    And how are you going to discern whether people are or aren't certifiably nuts enough to purchase a gun? What is the standard?

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