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    Re: Report: Arizona Gunman Was Not Motivated By Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Lol it's funny to watch people argue that Zeitgeist is a 'lefty' movie. It argues against the Federal Reserve, Income Tax and a North American Union etc. It also screams that they're all part of a NWO. A typical far right talking point.

    Have any of you ever actually watched Zeitgeist? It spends 1 third of the movie making the point that 'illegal' income tax is how we're all being controlled.

    The OP is a cultural failure.
    You realize that when taken as a whole, not cherry picked, Zeitgeist and the ideology it pushes is very similar to what's being discussed in the Nazi thread and actually falls right in line with the type of thing I've been saying about this guy the entire time. Namely, that to try and place a legitimate and realistic "Left" or "Right" ideology upon it...in the vein of traditional American Left/Right...is impossible and does a disservice to either through gross misrepresentation if you label it as such. It features extreme views from a variety of locations upon the political spectrum, much like he did, many of which are disowned by the vast majority of either side of the political spectrum here in America.

    People suggesting Zeitgeist is some ridiculously "leftist" movie are horribly misrepresenting it, as are people that are suggesting its a "far right" movie either. The best description of it in this thread has been quasi-communist anarchist, as it at least acknowledges extreme notions from both sides in its description. Rejecting Christianity is hardly something you'd find someone claiming is "Far right" regularly. Those believing the government/bush orchestrated or allowed 9/11 to happen to allow for the War on Terror is something routinely found on the far left more so than on the far right. The issue with the fear of NAFTA bringing about a one world government, the federal reserve, and the illegality of the income tax are Far Right issues. On the flip side, the issues with RFID tracking is something that both sides extremes have issues with.

    Seriously...trying to paint this as either "far left" or "far right" is misguided. Just like the man himself, as I have been arguing, is most likely identifiable by no normal american definition of "Right/left", neither is that movie. It, and he, is a mixture of extremes from both ends of the spectrum, as likely to detest Barack Obama or Sarah Palin as he was to dislike a blue dog like the congresswoman.

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    Re: Report: Arizona Gunman Was Not Motivated By Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    It isn't "a movie" it is a leftist/anarchist movement. Besides, if you had done your homework or even read my follow-up post, you would know that they have released 3 movies so far.
    However, the OP's article specifically was referencing "Zeitgeist: The Movie" which is an extreme ideological movie that can not accurately or honestly be claimed as "left wing" nor "right wing". Anarchist itself doesn't even really fit it as it does not seem to be arguing for no government, but against issues with regards to our specific government.

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    Re: Report: Arizona Gunman Was Not Motivated By Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    However, the OP's article specifically was referencing "Zeitgeist: The Movie" which is an extreme ideological movie that can not accurately or honestly be claimed as "left wing" nor "right wing". Anarchist itself doesn't even really fit it as it does not seem to be arguing for no government, but against issues with regards to our specific government.
    When you say "OP" you mean "original post" right?

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    Re: Report: Arizona Gunman Was Not Motivated By Politics

    Original post or poster....so in the original posts article or the original poster's (your) article

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    Re: Report: Arizona Gunman Was Not Motivated By Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    GAME OVER!
    What Grim doesn't get is it's not a 'game', and it's far from over... no matter what best buddy Zach Osler says.

    The far-righties must think if you repeat something enough times, it becomes true.

    Don't work that way, sparky.

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    Re: Report: Arizona Gunman Was Not Motivated By Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    What Grim doesn't get is it's not a 'game', and it's far from over... no matter what best buddy Zach Osler says.

    The far-righties must think if you repeat something enough times, it becomes true.

    Don't work that way, sparky.
    You honestly think this is the far rights fault?

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    Re: Report: Arizona Gunman Was Not Motivated By Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    You honestly think this is the far rights fault?
    Fault? -- I think this a good time to have a conversation about the direction of political discourse in our country. I think Sarah and Glenn are part of that conversation. I think integrity means owning up to those times when you overstepped or pushed too far...

    You turn up the heat (hate) the soup will eventually boil over...

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    Re: Report: Arizona Gunman Was Not Motivated By Politics

    Why not just ask the man what motivated him? For **** sake this guessing game has gone on for far too long.

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    Re: Report: Arizona Gunman Was Not Motivated By Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    What Grim doesn't get is it's not a 'game', and it's far from over...
    It's a game alright... A sick game that's being played by liberals in the media, democrats in Washington and the sheep on the internet who defend their despicable and dishonest politicizing of that tragedy.

    You are correct though, It's far from over... I am extremely confident that the left will continue to lie their asses off and do what ever deplorable thing they have to, to try and regain their political power. Since they have resorted to blaming Palin, the Tea Party, Limbaugh, Beck, Levin and even Michelle Bachman for the killing spree last weekend in Tucson, it's scary to imagine what their next despicable stunt will involve.

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    Re: Report: Arizona Gunman Was Not Motivated By Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    It's a game alright... A sick game that's being played by liberals in the media, democrats in Washington and the sheep on the internet who defend their despicable and dishonest politicizing of that tragedy.

    You are correct though, It's far from over... I am extremely confident that the left will continue to lie their asses off and do what ever deplorable thing they have to, to try and regain their political power. Since they have resorted to blaming Palin, the Tea Party, Limbaugh, Beck, Levin and even Michelle Bachman for the killing spree last weekend in Tucson, it's scary to imagine what their next despicable stunt will involve.
    While that may be your immediate concern, I am far more concerned with the next victims of hateful violence.
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