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    Re: Report: Arizona Gunman Was Not Motivated By Politics

    The left is trying to use murder for political gain. Those who defend this are as low life and despicable as the left wing politicians and media doing this

    Jared Loughner’s friend says suspect ‘Did not watch TV … disliked the news’ - TVNewser

    Osler says his friend wasn’t shooting at people, “he was shooting at the world.” Regarding the high-pitched talk radio and cable news political rhetoric, Osler says his friend didn’t even watch the news.

    He did not watch TV. He disliked the news. He didn’t listen to political radio. He didn’t take sides. He wasn’t on the left. He wasn’t on the right.

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    Re: Report: Arizona Gunman Was Not Motivated By Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    So, wonder if those folks that were trying to blame Palin's facebook page, or Rush's "rhetoric" will man up and say "Okay okay, he was just plain nutz, I was wrong"


    Something tells me not a one of them will post here.
    No, that movie is Palin's fault, as well...haha

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    Re: Report: Arizona Gunman Was Not Motivated By Politics

    There are 3 Zeitgeist movies: The first, “Zeitgeist: The Movie” was released in 2007, the second, “Zeitgeist Addendum” was released in 2008 and the third, “Zeitgeist Moving Forward” was just released this month.

    I watched the first one (and took some notes) and I’m about 25 minutes into the second one but I needed a bit of a break so I’ll try to shortly summarize the first movie.

    It starts out with “Part I” which is basically a lame attempt to discredit religion and make the point that religion is simply a means of controlling people and that Christianity & Judaism are just copies of the Egyptian’s religion and that the bible is simply an “astrotheological literary hybrid”.


    Part II begins as a 9/11 truther series that claims 9/11 was actually perpetrated by the US government. It defines terrorism as “Technique used by governments to manipulate public opinion in order to further agenda”. Part II also claims that the following were perpetrated by the government, as well as countless others: Oklahoma City bombing, Pan Am Flight 103, first World Trade Center bombing, Madrid subway bombings, 2005 London trains & bus bombings and even Pearl Harbor.

    Part III covers several ideas but is based upon the overriding theme that we are all slaves to rich bankers who control the government (government behind the government). These bankers control the Federal Reserve and use war as a profit making business and a means of retaining their power. It’s chock full of conspiratorial nonsense that tries to prove that WWI, WWII, Vietnam, 9/11 and Iraq/Afghanistan was were all perpetrated by power hungry bankers who want the Middle East oil etc.


    It also claims that the education system was taken over by the government and is failing so miserably because these bankers don’t want us or our children to be smart enough to figure out what they are up to.

    It attacks the media (Fox News and Rupert Murdoch almost exclusively) as another tool these people use to control us. It also accuses these bankers, who control all of us, as having an ultimate goal of having everybody in the world implanted with an RFID chip that contains all their personal and bank info etc. so that they can further consolidate their power over us.

    The last 5 minutes of the first 2 hr movie talk about a new consciousness and says [in spite of all the depressing stuff we just showed you] “However, if people ever realize the truth of their relationship to nature and the truth of their personal power to affect change, the entire manufactured zeitgeist that’s preyed upon would collapse like a house of cards…. The Revolution is now”

    It’s pretty disturbing and really answers a lot of questions about his You Tube videos and the like.

    The second movie, thus far, is about the monetary system and how we are all slaves to the rich etc.

    "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought."
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    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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    Re: Report: Arizona Gunman Was Not Motivated By Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Stop playing dumb, the spin was all Fox.
    Maybe you missed the money quote, which I took directly from the ABC interview:

    He did not watch TV. He disliked the news. He didn’t listen to political radio. He didn’t take sides. He wasn’t on the left. He wasn’t on the right."

    Zach Osler,
    Jared Loughner's best friend

    GAME OVER!




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    Last edited by Grim17; 01-12-11 at 09:40 PM.

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    Re: Report: Arizona Gunman Was Not Motivated By Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Something tells me you didn't read the article. Neither did the OP.

    Go Fox News!! Spin, spin, spin...
    For you Hazl, since you like picking them so much



    So you ignore the youtube videos, ignore the best friend from only two years ago, ignore the various friends who've suggested how he's acted recently and in the past....

    And latch onto what....? A poster that has no proof he's ever seen or cared about? A radio personality that has no proof he's ever listened to or cared about? A movement that has no proof he's ever been an active member of or cared about?

    Wow...wonderful job. You're absolutely right, why can't we just see the facts as clearly as you do.


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    Re: Report: Arizona Gunman Was Not Motivated By Politics

    This should do it...


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    Re: Report: Arizona Gunman Was Not Motivated By Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Something tells me you didn't read the article. Neither did the OP.

    Go Fox News!! Spin, spin, spin...
    Something tells me you don't know what you're talking about and that you are one of those Westboro Baptist Church protester types who uses the tragic deaths of Americans for political gain.

    Once again your assumptions are incorrect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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    Re: Report: Arizona Gunman Was Not Motivated By Politics

    Lol it's funny to watch people argue that Zeitgeist is a 'lefty' movie. It argues against the Federal Reserve, Income Tax and a North American Union etc. It also screams that they're all part of a NWO. A typical far right talking point.

    Have any of you ever actually watched Zeitgeist? It spends 1 third of the movie making the point that 'illegal' income tax is how we're all being controlled.

    The OP is a cultural failure.
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    Re: Report: Arizona Gunman Was Not Motivated By Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Wow, Fox news is doing an excellent of making sure you only get the part of the story that compliments their preconceived narrative.



    Sadly, if he is found insane, he won't take the blame.
    Wrong again Hazel. Check into Arizona law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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    Re: Report: Arizona Gunman Was Not Motivated By Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Lol it's funny to watch people argue that Zeitgeist is a 'lefty' movie. It argues against the Federal Reserve, Income Tax and a North American Union etc. It also screams that they're all part of a NWO. A typical far right talking point.

    Have any of you ever actually watched Zeitgeist? It spends 1 third of the movie making the point that 'illegal' income tax is how we're all being controlled.

    The OP is a cultural failure.
    It isn't "a movie" it is a leftist/anarchist movement. Besides, if you had done your homework or even read my follow-up post, you would know that they have released 3 movies so far.

    "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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