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    Re: Sarah Palin accuses critics of "blood libel"

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    HAH, no kidding. remember that loon who claimed he'd been to 57 States?

    whatever happened to him, anywho?
    That's odd I don't recall you calling Bush a "loon" for all his verbal slips. Oh that's right you use a different standard for him.

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    Re: Sarah Palin accuses critics of "blood libel"

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    At the same time, though, it's important to be even-handed in the criticism. The people who are treating her like an accessory deserve just as much criticim for their rhetoric.

    And as far as the "blood libel" comment by Palin goes, big deal. I don't think it was the most appropraite term, and I think she is one of the worst offenders for using victimization rhetoric out there (which is something I've been criticising her for from well-before this shooting occurred), but it it's pretty much a "big deal" situation for me. Something to make a few jokes about, perhaps explan why it isn't the most appropraiate term (as compared to witch hunt) and continue talking about her penchant for victimization-mentality nonses (which, as I've said, I've been doing for quite some time no), but it isn't something to get all riled up about.

    Right now, I think the person most deserving of being attacked for his rhetoric is the sheriff who turned this whole thing into a political debate. If not for him, this discussion about rhetoric could have been had in a more appropraite venue, but now it's going to end up becoming exactly what it should be trying to fix.
    Again, I wholeheartedly agree.

    I think the sheriff let his emotions get the best of him, unfortunately.
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    Re: Sarah Palin accuses critics of "blood libel"

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Isn't Gardner basically saying that her sly smiles and smirks led, in some way, to an atmosphere that caused the shooter to do what he did?
    I am saying that, as a politician, she has a certain responsibilities in regards to her conduct, her rhetoric, and the way she handles her crowd.
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    Re: Sarah Palin accuses critics of "blood libel"

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    No, there isn't. But that doesn't have any bearing on the fact that she is at least partialy responsible for the "attacks" against her. The attacks against her aren't really that she was an accesory to murder or anything like that. They are about the possible effects of her rhetoric.

    The context which the criticism is being give is unfair, but the criticism itself is deserved. Thus, she ain't a victim.
    So you planned to start a thread on this to gig everyone equally, right? You are independent, and not a shill for the left.
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    Re: Sarah Palin accuses critics of "blood libel"

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Not only the rhetoric, itself, but her handling of issues such as those arising when her followers yell out "kill him" in regards to Obama after her invective gets them all riled up. Her smirks and sly smiles when they do so certainly gives no indication that she finds the assassinations of others to be a particularly bad idea. She could have stopped her speeches at any moment and actually chewed out those who advocated assassination, but didn't.

    It is patently hypocritical of her to cry foul when she has been as enabling as she has.
    Exactly. Her rhetoric is designed to spark an emotional reaction in her supporters. And she uses the rhetoric of victimization quite well. She plays on people's natural tendency to blame otehrs for tehir own predicaments and associates her political opposition with everything that is bad in people's lives. She works away at the seeds of anger in people's hearts and nourishes that anger, cultivating it for political gain.

    It's a common practice used by both sides. Bush dealt with it to an extreme level too.

    It's exacerbated by the fact that there are many problems in the coutnry right now and emotions are at a high level. While her only real goal is to get support for herself and her views. There are side-effects of this. It's divisive, it ignores the issues and presents nothing in the way of potential solutions to the problems.

    She's a politician in a sound-bite society. Like many people who are in her position, she takes the lazy approach to garnering support by playing emotions and not logic.

    These tactics have a detrimental effect, both on the nation and with disturbed individuals. We are seeing the results of these kind of tactics (which are coming from the left right now), with the death threats and such being made towards Tea Party people and Palin herself. This is happening because instead of actually trying to address these kinds of tactics, many people who are offering criticism are using them. they aren't really criticizing the tactics, they are criticizing their opponents.

    There is no doubt that the degree of polarization in the US political scene today is getting even worse. Both sides are doing it, and it damages the country as a whole.
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    Re: Sarah Palin accuses critics of "blood libel"

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    So you planned to start a thread on this to gig everyone equally, right? You are independent, and not a shill for the left.
    I didn't start any threads on this going after any side.

    I've gone after plenty of different people in different threads, though.
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    Re: Sarah Palin accuses critics of "blood libel"

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    That's odd I don't recall you calling Bush a "loon" for all his verbal slips. Oh that's right you use a different standard for him.
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    Re: Sarah Palin accuses critics of "blood libel"

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    I didn't start any threads on this going after any side.

    I've gone after plenty of different people in different threads, though.
    The President has spoken, a plainly shutdown all allegations that rhetoric caused this. He didn't just allude to it, he said it directly.
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    Re: Sarah Palin accuses critics of "blood libel"

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    I think the sheriff let his emotions get the best of him, unfortunately.
    His actions were completely out of line. He doesn't deserve to have excuses made for him. If he cannot control his emotions, he shouldn't be in the position he is in and he shouldn't be planting himself in front of every camera he can.
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    Re: Sarah Palin accuses critics of "blood libel"

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    The President has spoken, a plainly shutdown all allegations that rhetoric caused this. He didn't just allude to it, he said it directly.
    I've also stated plainly that the rheotirc didn't cause this. Here, on DP.
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