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    Re: Sarah Palin accuses critics of "blood libel"

    Quote Originally Posted by cAPSLOCK View Post
    Jesus with a jumprope.

    Seriously. That is as paranoid as anything Beck ever froths on about.

    Really seriously. I didn't have to look up the phrase because I know it. Both in it's historical context and the modern usage which encompasses the idea of wrongful accusation and persecution.

    I would be willing to bet whoever wrote the script for that video liked the imagery of the WSJ article and decided to borrow the phrase.

    Period.

    It is really as uninspired and dull as that.

    There is no giant conspiracy. No intentional secret neo-religious message. No racist insensitivity. No hidden meaning at all.
    Who said there was a conspiracy or neo-religious message? It's pretty out in the open to most people. Protestant tradition in America has sought to portray itself as new Jews sent to Americas to create a new promised land for Christians. Look at Mormon tradition, which Beck is a proud spokesperson for. Joseph Smith sought to create a new Zion in Missouri. Various baptist churches in the South have at different points in time sought to create new societies to escape the Babylon that is American culture. Then you have the more mainstream Protestant groups who actively support Israel because they think that by doing so they are pushing through a confrontation with Muslims which will in turn bring about the end of days. Seriously, to call this a 'conspiracy' is quite a stretch. It's just the religious being... well.... religious.

    The evidence speaks for itself:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormonism

    The Church of Christ grew steadily, but from the beginning in 1830, its members were persecuted by non-Mormons. To avoid persecution from New York residents, some of whom claimed Smith worked as a treasure seeker, the Latter Day Saints moved to Kirtland, Ohio and hoped to establish a permanent New Jerusalem in Jackson County, Missouri. However, the Saints were expelled from Jackson County in 1833 forced to flee Kirtland in early 1838. In Missouri, the Mormon War of 1838 resulted in the "Mormon Extermination Order," resulting in the expulsion of Latter Day Saints from Missouri, and they settled in Nauvoo, Illinois. In 1844, Smith was killed by members of the Illinois militia, precipitating a succession crisis. The largest group of Saints accepted Brigham Young as the new prophet/leader and emigrated to what became the Utah Territory, where they incorporated The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. The church began to openly practice plural marriage, a form of polygamy that Smith had instituted in Nauvoo. Plural marriage became the faith's most sensational characteristic during the 19th century, but vigorous opposition by the United States Congress threatened the church's existence as a legal institution. In his 1890 Manifesto, church president Wilford Woodruff announced the official end of plural marriage, though the practice continued unofficially until the early 20th century.
    As far as the rest of your post goes, I've never even heard the phrased be used outside of history books. So I'm not really convinced it's as common as your opinion says it is. Sorry!
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    Re: Sarah Palin accuses critics of "blood libel"

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    As far as the rest of your post goes, I've never even heard the phrased be used outside of history books. So I'm not really convinced it's as common as your opinion says it is. Sorry!
    Well, I have heard of it used in more casual contexts than the historical blood libel context. I am not the only one aware of this case of semantic bleaching... and here
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    Re: Sarah Palin accuses critics of "blood libel"

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Well, I have heard of it used in more casual contexts than the historical blood libel context. I am not the only one aware of this case of semantic bleaching... and here
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    Semantic bleaching seems to be another term Palin and you are making up definitions for.

    The best part is that in the other link you gave EVERY SINGLE EXAMPLE FOR BLOOD LIBEL INVOLVES JEWS:

    France 1171

    In 1171, Blois was the site of a blood libel accusation against its Jewish community that led to 31 Jews (by some accounts 40) being burned to death .[8]

    England 1255

    The case of Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln is mentioned by Chaucer, and thus has become well known. A child of eight years, named Hugh, son of a woman named Beatrice, disappeared at Lincoln on the 31st of July. His body was discovered on the 29th of August, covered with filth, in a pit or well belonging to a Jewish man named Copin or Koppin.
    On being promised by John of Lexington, a judge, who happened to be present, that his life should be spared, Copin is said to have confessed that the boy had been crucified by the Jews, who had assembled at Lincoln for that purpose. King Henry III, on reaching Lincoln some five weeks afterward, at the beginning of October, refused to carry out the promise of John of Lexington, and had Copin executed and ninety-one of the Jews of Lincoln seized and sent up to London, where eighteen of them were executed. The rest were pardoned at the intercession of the Franciscans.[9]

    Spain 1491

    Christopher of Toledo, also known as Christopher of La Guardia or "the Holy Child of La Guardia," was a four-year-old Christian boy supposedly murdered by two Jews and three Conversos (converts to Christianity). In total, eight men were executed. It is now believed that this case was constructed by the Spanish Inquisition to facilitate the expulsion of Jews from Spain.[10] He was canonized by Pope Pius VII in 1805. Christopher has since been removed from the canon, though once again, a handful of individuals still claim the validity of this case.

    Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth 1690

    The only child-saint in the Russian Orthodox Church is the six year old boy Gavriil Belostoksky from the village Zverki. According to the legend supported by the church, the boy was kidnapped from his home during the holiday of Passover while his parents were away. Shutko, a Jew from Białystok, was accused in bringing the boy to Białystok, poking him with sharp objects and draining his blood for nine days, then bringing the body back to Zverki and dumping at a local field. A cult developed, and the boy was canonized in 1820. His relics are still the object of pilgrimage.

    Tiszaeszlár, Hungary 1882

    On April 1, 1882, Eszter Solymosi, a 14-year-old Christian peasant girl who was a servant in the home of András Huri in Tiszaeszlár, a Hungarian village situated on the Tisza river, was sent on an errand from which she did not return. After a fruitless search, a rumor was circulated that the girl had become a victim of Jewish religious fanaticism. Hungarian agitators, whose leaders, Géza Ónody, representative of Tiszaeszlár in the Hungarian Parliament, and Győző Istóczy, MP, who later founded the Antisemitic Party, had proposed the expulsion of the Jews in the House of Deputies, excited the public against the local Jews, resulting in a number of violent acts and pogroms. They spread the charge that the Jews had killed the girl in order to use her blood at the approaching Passover (April 4). On May 4 her mother accused the Jews before the local judge of having murdered her daughter. A corrupt investigation followed, in which Jews were coerced and threatened into admitting guilt, which set off a wave of anti-semitism in Hungary for decades.

    Atlanta, Georgia, United States 1913

    In a similar case, Leo Frank, a Jewish manager at a local pencil factory was accused of raping and killing 12-year-old Mary Phagan. Though he was never accused of using her blood in any kind of ritual, there was a consistent yellow journalism campaign to portray Frank as a pervert and a sadist. After he was pardoned by the governor in 1915 Frank was lynched by a group calling themselves the Knights of Mary Phagan, which would become the kernel of a revived Ku Klux Klan. The Leo Frank lynching was also related to racist tensions and policies in Georgia, as many other people had been lynched there.[11]

    Kielce, Poland 1946

    The Kielce pogrom against Holocaust survivors in Poland was sparked by an accusation of blood libel. The fundamental motivation for the Kielce pogrom, however, was that Jewish survivors of the Holocaust had returned to reclaim their land and property, which their Polish neighbors had stolen. The Poles would not relinquish their stolen goods and instead murdered the Jews.
    Did you read your own link? Or are you trying to prove me correctly?
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    Re: Sarah Palin accuses critics of "blood libel"

    so THAT's why matthews, krugman, olbermann, et al, accused palin of inspiring this salvia using, anti bush, anti fox news, flag burning psychopath who was so burned out over job woes and rejection by women of mass murder before the echo of the gunshots returned off the walls of safeway?

    pathetic

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    Re: Sarah Palin accuses critics of "blood libel"

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I'm quite sure Jews can claim the words 'blood libel'.
    my people get to "claim" words?

    the words belong to the chosen?

    are there any other words my relatives get to "claim?"

    the haters are losin it, folks

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    Re: Sarah Palin accuses critics of "blood libel"

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    my people get to "claim" words?
    You get to claim people?
    So follow me into the desert
    As desperate as you are
    Where the moon is glued to a picture of heaven
    And all the little pigs have God

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    Re: Sarah Palin accuses critics of "blood libel"

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    You get to claim people?
    People get to claim the Prof? Who'd want to claim the prof?
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    Re: Sarah Palin accuses critics of "blood libel"

    yes, as a born jew, the chosen are indeed my people

    you have a problem with that, too?

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    Re: Sarah Palin accuses critics of "blood libel"

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    yes, as a born jew, the chosen are indeed my people

    you have a problem with that, too?
    Yes.

    I hate Sarah Palin, Jews, virgins, fat dogs and socially awkward children.

    I want to do nothing more than put them all inside a room and blast Ramstein until they beg for non-koscher chicken wings.

    In other words:

    You're an idiot.
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    Re: Sarah Palin accuses critics of "blood libel"

    so much hate from the lovers-of-humanity crowd

    are there any other mass murders mrs alaska is responsible for, directly or indirectly?

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