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    Re: Sarah Palin accuses critics of "blood libel"

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    my undergrad was in history, but i don'y recall studying much antisemitism outside of the middle east. the basic common-usage that i've heard seems both fairly intuitive and applicable; false testimony about murder.

    as for palins' speechwriter; it was a facebook post. her speeches are given off of scribbled words on her palm, remember?
    It was a eight minute professionally produced speech from what I've read. I'm sure someone wrote it.

    How could "blood libel" be fairly intuitive? It doesn't mention murder at all in the phrase. Or Jews or persecution for that matter.
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    Re: Sarah Palin accuses critics of "blood libel"

    Quote Originally Posted by fbi10 View Post
    I never stated that it "changed" (Palin used it correctly) from it's original meaning but clearly pointed out that,the term has been used to describe events outside of a jewish conflict, like a metaphor of sorts. Also, to pin the term ONLY to Judaism isn't accurate because other religious minority groups have been "targeted" by this term...
    Of course, the definition would have to change in order for her usage to be correct. Most defintitions that I've seen include religious minorities as possible targets.

    You keep pointing out that other people have used it. I'm aware. Palin certainly doesn't have a monopoly on misusing words and phrases.

    Quote Originally Posted by fbi10 View Post
    It's funny, but where was the "outrage" from the left when the wall street journal used the term a few days ago??

    "So as the usual talking heads begin their "have you no decency?" routine aimed at talk radio and Republican politicians, perhaps we should turn the question around. Where is the decency in blood libel?"- GLENN HARLAN REYNOLDS
    You mean like this?

    I should have said this a few days ago, when my friend Glenn Reynolds introduced the term to this debate. But I think that the use of this particular term in this context isnít ideal. Historically, the term is almost invariably used to describe anti-Semitic myths about how Jews use blood ó usually from children ó in their rituals. I agree entirely with Glennís, and now Palinís, larger point. But Iím not sure either of them intended to redefine the phrase, or that they should have.
    “Blood Libel” - By Jonah Goldberg - The Corner - National Review Online

    I think the only ones outraged are some Jewish groups. They can be outraged as far as I'm concerned. I just think she misspoke.
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    Re: Sarah Palin accuses critics of "blood libel"

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelzie View Post
    It was a eight minute professionally produced speech from what I've read. I'm sure someone wrote it.

    How could "blood libel" be fairly intuitive? It doesn't mention murder at all in the phrase. Or Jews or persecution for that matter.
    Did you see what those anti-Semitic bastards at the Anti Defamation League had to say about the modern definition of blood-libel?

    Quote Originally Posted by ADL
    While the term “blood-libel” has become part of the English parlance to refer to someone being falsely accused, we wish that Palin had used another phrase, instead of one so fraught with pain in Jewish history.
    I bet they deny the Holocaust too.

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    Re: Sarah Palin accuses critics of "blood libel"

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    Did you see what those anti-Semitic bastards at the Anti Defamation League had to say about the modern definition of blood-libel?

    I bet they deny the Holocaust too.
    Who's calling her an anti-Semite?
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    Re: Sarah Palin accuses critics of "blood libel"

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelzie View Post
    Who's calling her an anti-Semite?
    I certainly didn't... That was called "sarcasm".

    But if you are really interested in hearing someone call what she said "anti-Semetic", well here you go... Take a guess what side of the political fence this Washington Post writer is on? Fast forward to the 1:15 mark to save some time:


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    Re: Sarah Palin accuses critics of "blood libel"

    Did you see what those anti-Semitic bastards at the Anti Defamation League had to say about the modern definition of blood-libel?

    Quote Originally Posted by ADL
    While the term “blood-libel” has become part of the English parlance to refer to someone being falsely accused, we wish that Palin had used another phrase, instead of one so fraught with pain in Jewish history.
    Doesn't that mean they are NOT anti-Semite? I think you have it bass ackwards.

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    Re: Sarah Palin accuses critics of "blood libel"

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    No, that would be the sheriff, Bill Maher, Keith Olbermann, CNN, ABC, CBS, and your party's elected officials.

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    Re: Sarah Palin accuses critics of "blood libel"

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    She is right, absolutely on the money but with her criticism but a "blood libel"? Ö
    Mark your calendars: January 12, 2011, the day Sarah Palin disqualified herself from any further consideration as a candidate for President of the United States.
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    Re: Sarah Palin accuses critics of "blood libel"

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    Mark your calendars: January 12, 2011, the day Sarah Palin disqualified herself from any further consideration as a candidate for President of the United States.
    To be honest, I think that happened quite awhile ago.

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    Re: Sarah Palin accuses critics of "blood libel"

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    Mark your calendars: January 12, 2011, the day Sarah Palin disqualified herself from any further consideration as a candidate for President of the United States.
    Well I don't think it's quite that bad. At the very worst, she just chose the wrong word. Certainly politicians have done worse.
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