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    Re: Sarah Palin accuses critics of "blood libel"

    Quote Originally Posted by smartin View Post
    How about I quote the whole thing:

    "It seems that she picked the term specifically because of its violent imagery, ignoring the fact that it didn't make sense in the context in which she used it."

    It DOES make sense: a "blood libel" is when you falsely assign collective blame for murder to stoke hatred against a group.

    It is a political tactic to portray the TEA Party and conservatives in general as violent, dangerous people--right down to the metaphors they use--as evidenced by the fact that every time a random act of violence breaks out, the port-siders IMMEDIATELY shrieks that the perp is a right-wing nutjob. Then after it comes out that the person was just a garden-variety crank (or a left-wing nut job), they insist that right-wing rhetoric pushed them to do it.

    They don't say it because it's true but because it's useful. The NARRATIVE must be maintained, because the narrative puts them in power, truth be damned.

    The left has been using this particular tactic since the JFK assassination, and especially since OKC. Keep lying until it sticks, I guess.
    I've obviously read the whole thing, there's no need to quote it. It certainly doesn't make it any more valid. Who cares what she thinks?
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    Re: Sarah Palin accuses critics of "blood libel"

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    So, interestingly enough, had Palin chosen the term "witch hunt" instead of "blood libel", it would have been far more appropriate to the context of what she has been dealing with.
    Oh dear. if Palin had called herself a witch, then people would've had even more fun with that one.
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    Re: Sarah Palin accuses critics of "blood libel"

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelzie View Post
    I've obviously read the whole thing, there's no need to quote it. It certainly doesn't make it any more valid. Who cares what she thinks?
    My point is that if it was me I would have quoted the whole thing from the start and I didn't, because I did not write this. But it is very insightful on the tactics the left uses.
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    Re: Sarah Palin accuses critics of "blood libel"

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelzie View Post
    Yes, as featured on an exclusive interview with biggoverment.com. Color me thoroughly impressed.
    Ahhh, so a liberal doesn't tell the truth when giving an interview to right wing media ??

    or... maybe you thing big government.com fabricated the interview.

    Any other explanation of your bizarre comment would make you look even more partisan.

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    Re: Sarah Palin accuses critics of "blood libel"

    Quote Originally Posted by smartin View Post
    And this from the comments section of the above article:

    Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz releases statement defending Palin's use of the term:

    “The term “blood libel” has taken on a broad metaphorical meaning in public discourse. Although its historical origins were in theologically based false accusations against the Jews and the Jewish People,its current usage is far broader. I myself have used it to describe false accusations against the State of Israel by the Goldstone Report. There is nothing improper and certainly nothing anti-Semitic in Sarah Palin using the term to characterize what she reasonably believes are false accusations that her words or images may have caused a mentally disturbed individual to kill and maim. The fact that two of the victims are Jewish is utterly irrelevant to the propriety of using this widely used term.”


    And this:

    It DOES make sense: a "blood libel" is when you falsely assign collective blame for murder to stoke hatred against a group.
    Cool. we can all be certain that this won't be the last time Dershowitz has been wrong about anything, and it probably won't be the last time you make an appeal to authority.
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    Re: Sarah Palin accuses critics of "blood libel"

    Quote Originally Posted by smartin View Post
    My point is that if it was me I would have quoted the whole thing from the start and I didn't, because I did not write this. But it is very insightful on the tactics the left uses.
    Ooo, look, this is from someone called "megan"

    Just because the term has been used more widely, doesn't mean it should be. Just because it has been used more widely, doesn't mean that it isn't loaded with ugly history. it's not just that the blood libel was a false accusation - it's the things that were done to the Jewish population in its name. Google the Kielce pogrom for a fuller understanding of how the term isn't exactly archaic in Jewish history. To my mind - and I say this as a conservative, a Catholic, and a student of the Holocaust - there is no more willfully selfish term that Palin could have used.
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    Re: Sarah Palin accuses critics of "blood libel"

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelzie View Post
    Ooo, look, this is from someone called "megan"



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    Quoting yourself I see.
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    Re: Sarah Palin accuses critics of "blood libel"

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Ahhh, so a liberal doesn't tell the truth when giving an interview to right wing media ??

    or... maybe you thing big government.com fabricated the interview.

    Any other explanation of your bizarre comment would make you look even more partisan.
    Who knows, they might have. I've certainly never heard of them. This professor was last known for his backing of OJ Simpson. I don't really care what his opinion is on anything.
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    Re: Sarah Palin accuses critics of "blood libel"

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Even with real "witch hunts" there weren't any real witches involved. That's pretty much the way the this particular term is used nowadays. It describes situations where accusations of some made-up wrong doing are rendered towards people for any numebr of reasons (sometimes simply because the accuser didn't like the accused).
    Yes. So "Witch Hunt" (which is actually a similar idea to "Blood Libel" in some ways) is now often used as a metaphor to describe situations where people make irrational and false accusations to paint people they disagree with in a bad light, or destroy their reputation.

    “The term “blood libel” has taken on a broad metaphorical meaning in public discourse. Although its historical origins were in theologically based false accusations against the Jews and the Jewish People,its current usage is far broader. I myself have used it to describe false accusations against the State of Israel by the Goldstone Report. There is nothing improper and certainly nothing anti-Semitic in Sarah Palin using the term to characterize what she reasonably believes are false accusations that her words or images may have caused a mentally disturbed individual to kill and maim. The fact that two of the victims are Jewish is utterly irrelevant to the propriety of using this widely used term.”
    Dershowitz, a Harvard prof (and jewish is he not?) goes one step further and blows all this nit picking out of the water.

    As I said earlier. I am neither a fan, nor enemy of Palin. I am also a fairly moderate libertarian. My friends on the left who are singing with the current choir are really starting to look BAAAAAAAAAD to me in the aftermath of this event.

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    Re: Sarah Palin accuses critics of "blood libel"

    Quote Originally Posted by smartin View Post
    Quoting yourself I see.
    It's from the same site you got your "evidence."
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