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    Re: Arizona legislature passes bill limiting funeral protests

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    As long as the protesters are not trespassing on private property,blocking entrances to parking lots or building entrance then there should be no buffer zone.
    This is simple truth. I also think it should be extended to our political conventions too. And no pre-arresting! I forget if that was the RNC or the DNC convention, but they basically pre-arrested people they thought could cause trouble.
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    Re: Arizona legislature passes bill limiting funeral protests

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Yeah its ****ed up that assholes want to protest at this little girl's funeral but the government state or federal should not be passing unconstitutional laws.
    Why would someone want to protest at a funeral anyway? Aren't some things sacred and dont't have to be protected by the constitution?

    Oh wait. I see. Your avatar tells it all.

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    Re: Arizona legislature passes bill limiting funeral protests

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    I think I'm missing a bit of cultural knowledge here, being English. I've heard of this church, and their picketing of AIDS victims and soldiers funerals, but, what's the connexion to the little girl?
    They said they have a problem with her because she's Catholic.

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    Re: Arizona legislature passes bill limiting funeral protests

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    Amen.

    With the passage of this bill approved by 29-0 in the state Senate and 58-0 in the state House I really find it hard someone wants to bring out the old partisan crap.

    This has nothing to do with lib vs right winger.

    It is a frickin funeral. It isn't a county fair. They can go park their arses 300 feet away and call the little girl a slut as much as they want to.
    Why only 300 feet? I can hear someone shouting at 300 feet and if they are not blocked I can see them quite easily.

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    Re: Arizona legislature passes bill limiting funeral protests

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
    I don't think it is just this - though at first glance, a 300 meter separation seems to answer that. It is an infringement which can be used another time in another space as a precedent and limitation will have been set.

    There were other ways to solve this problem - including public campaigns to block the funeral viewer's view of the Phelps clan or allowing counter protest. The action has been taken with the right spirit (making sure a funeral is held in peace) but is the wrong tool to acheive this.
    300 ft., not 300 meters. We never adopted the metric system over here remember?

    A counter protest would just make an even worse spectacle out of the funeral. Would it be too much to ask for the girl to have a funeral in peace without a bunch screaming of idiots?

    BTW I know violence is bad but I'd pay good money to see a close up of a sniper shot that took out Phelp's head in an explosion of brain, bone, and blood! And then watch another one piss his or her pants.
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    Re: Arizona legislature passes bill limiting funeral protests

    Personally I think the law is unconstitutional and a bad idea. I don't like the idea of being restricted like they chose to do.

    On the other hand, I've always thought the Phelps clan's tactics clearly are a form of incitement and they should be held accountable for that. Any reasonable person would conclude they are deliberately stirring up anger in an attempt to cause violence. It's literally how the Phelps' make a living, getting people pissed off enough to throw a punch and then suing them.

    edit: ****, I'm a liberal, that means I have to be against free speech. I forgot. You know, because liberals are always bad and conservatives are always good.
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    Re: Arizona legislature passes bill limiting funeral protests

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    Careful now, they are going to call you a lib.
    Wouldn't be the first time...or more than likely the last. I've been called them all. I normally just ignore it when someone calls me a name that they think is "dirty" in some way.
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    Re: Arizona legislature passes bill limiting funeral protests

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    Why would someone want to protest at a funeral anyway?
    I'm sure they have their reasons, just like those who think it's a good idea to piss on a christian cross.

    Aren't some things sacred and dont't have to be protected by the constitution?
    You mean like free speech? That's as sacred a thing as they come. At least to some people.
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    Re: Arizona legislature passes bill limiting funeral protests

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    Why would someone want to protest at a funeral anyway?
    Greed is the most simple answer. They basically piss people off,get those people to violate their rights, sue and collect lawyer fees and what ever they can get their money grubbing greedy ambulance chasing fingers on. They probably figured that this was easier than representing dumbasses who spilled coffee on themselves, lard asses who shoved on too many cheeseburgers down their throats and other dumbasses who injured and or harmed themselves due to their own negligence.
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    Re: Arizona legislature passes bill limiting funeral protests

    Why couldn't the shooter kill the church people instead? That would be a lot better, hell, I'd even send him a Facebook friend request.

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