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    Re: Arizona legislature passes bill limiting funeral protests

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    You calling the whole state of Arizona lib?
    Only a lib would want to ban hate speech.
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    Re: Arizona legislature passes bill limiting funeral protests

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    Only a lib would want to ban hate speech.
    Sound like a true conservative.

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    Re: Arizona legislature passes bill limiting funeral protests

    Jamesrage.
    You and I agree on most things, but I will disagree with you on this if you are saying Az is wrong in the law regrarding prostesting at funerals. I for one (living in Az) think it is ok to limit how close protesters can be to a funeral. I do not support the actions of the members of that Church. I do support that they have the right to say what they want. It just basically saying you can't get in my face to spout off. How is that stopping their "hate speech". We have limits on how close people can campaign at polling places. Why not limits to how close you can get to a grieving family at a funeral?
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    Re: Arizona legislature passes bill limiting funeral protests

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    Jamesrage.
    You and I agree on most things, but I will disagree with you on this if you are saying Az is wrong in the law regrarding prostesting at funerals. I for one (living in Az) think it is ok to limit how close protesters can be to a funeral. I do not support the actions of the members of that Church. I do support that they have the right to say what they want. It just basically saying you can't get in my face to spout off.
    This is a blatant violation of the constitution and they know it but yet they enacted it anyways because they know it will be some time before a judge will overturn it. How is this any better than libs ****tig on the constitution in DC,Chicago or some other place to ban or severely restrict firearms because they know it will be some time before it gets overturned. Not only is this a blatant violation of the constitution but a blatant misuse of the courts.

    How is that stopping their "hate speech".
    This bill says when and how far they can protest based on the hate Speech of Phelps. This is simply nothing more than a baby step towards banning other speech deemed hateful.



    We have limits on how close people can campaign at polling places. Why not limits to how close you can get to a grieving family at a funeral?
    Because you open the door for other "limits".
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    Re: Arizona legislature passes bill limiting funeral protests

    JR. I see you point and it is a fine line. What I am hoping will happen is the protesters will be met by the public and forced back away from the funeral. IMO, the public will have as much right to that sidewalk as the protesters.
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    Re: Arizona legislature passes bill limiting funeral protests

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    The Arizona Legislature unanimously has passed a bill meant to stop church from protesting at funerals of Tucson shooting victims.

    The vote was 29-0 in the state Senate and 58-0 in the state House. A spokesman for Gov. Jan Brewer earlier told CNN that she was prepared to sign the bill.


    Tucson, Arizona (CNN) -- The Arizona legislature is expected to pass legislation Tuesday targeting a Kansas church whose members have announced they plan to picket the funerals of the victims of Saturday's shootings in Tucson.

    The proposed legislation would make it a misdemeanor to protest within 300 feet of a funeral from one hour before until one hour after a funeral, a spokesman for the state House said.

    The action, according to House spokesman Daniel Scarpinato, is in direct response to the Westboro Baptist Church's announcement that it will picket the funeral of Christina Green, the 9-year-old who was among six people killed during Saturday's attempted assassination of U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Arizona.

    The controversial church, based in Topeka, has made its name by staging protests at funerals of people who died of AIDS, gay people, soldiers and even Coretta Scott King.

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    Arizona lawmakers take up funeral protest legislation - CNN.com

    Once again Arizona shows it's legislators will do what is necessary vs. waiting on our federal legislators that are worthless as a tit on a boar hog. God help those that try and strike this down.
    I think I'm missing a bit of cultural knowledge here, being English. I've heard of this church, and their picketing of AIDS victims and soldiers funerals, but, what's the connexion to the little girl?

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    Re: Arizona legislature passes bill limiting funeral protests

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    I think I'm missing a bit of cultural knowledge here, being English. I've heard of this church, and their picketing of AIDS victims and soldiers funerals, but, what's the connexion to the little girl?
    Media Attention to spew their vomit.


    That being said, I'm going to side with JR on this on principle. I DETEST the Phelps clan of clowns and morons. However, some lines once crossed may become easier to cross again. The action was one of emotion, by the State Reps, and while it was an act of good intention... the path to hell is laid with them. (good intentions)
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    Re: Arizona legislature passes bill limiting funeral protests

    I think it's pretty easy to side with these ****tards when it isn't your child's funeral that they are protesting. I can also see it as a safety issue. Emotions run high at funerals. I can easily see these protests eventually resulting in the death of one or more of these idiots. I could defend free speech if I thought for a second that these people weren't vile hypocrites who do this for shock value to gain media attention. They always make announcements that they are going to protest high profile funerals to garner media attention. They absolutely love to be hated. I'm all for this legislation for a variety of reasons. I don't see it as the slippery slope that others do. It has nothing to do with just banning hate speech. These morons have plenty of time to spew their hatred. I don't see any reason to allow them to do it at people's funerals, which are meant to honor a person and put them to rest. It has nothing to do with being a lib, and frankly I'm getting sick of the blatant partisan hackery being thrown into every single ****ing discussion here. Don't you people get enough of that bull**** rhetoric with the zillions of other political issues that come through here?

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    Re: Arizona legislature passes bill limiting funeral protests

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    I think it's pretty easy to side with these ****tards when it isn't your child's funeral that they are protesting. I can also see it as a safety issue. Emotions run high at funerals. I can easily see these protests eventually resulting in the death of one or more of these idiots. I could defend free speech if I thought for a second that these people weren't vile hypocrites who do this for shock value to gain media attention. They always make announcements that they are going to protest high profile funerals to garner media attention. They absolutely love to be hated. I'm all for this legislation for a variety of reasons. I don't see it as the slippery slope that others do. It has nothing to do with just banning hate speech. These morons have plenty of time to spew their hatred. I don't see any reason to allow them to do it at people's funerals, which are meant to honor a person and put them to rest. It has nothing to do with being a lib, and frankly I'm getting sick of the blatant partisan hackery being thrown into every single ****ing discussion here. Don't you people get enough of that bull**** rhetoric with the zillions of other political issues that come through here?
    Amen.

    With the passage of this bill approved by 29-0 in the state Senate and 58-0 in the state House I really find it hard someone wants to bring out the old partisan crap.

    This has nothing to do with lib vs right winger.

    It is a frickin funeral. It isn't a county fair. They can go park their arses 300 feet away and call the little girl a slut as much as they want to.

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    Re: Arizona legislature passes bill limiting funeral protests

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    No one has came up with a better solution yet. No one.

    If this is what it takes to give that little girl's family an unattacked funeral then to hell with the constitution.
    The notion of protesting this little girl's funeral is disgusting, but "to hell with the Constitution"? Really!?!? Thank you, though, for confirming what many of us already think is the agenda of the left...
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