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    Re: Obama, In A Blow To Closing Guantanamo, Signs Law

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Everyone has a plan until the 1st 7.62 wizzes by. You appealed to your service, it wasn't relevant in this case....
    Appealed? You might want to look that word up.


    Right now? there is only one, the guy who promised to close it....
    That would be factualy inaccurate.

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    Re: Obama, In A Blow To Closing Guantanamo, Signs Law

    Gitmo is all the fault of George Bush and as a result his staff has become too busy to protect the American people.

    Wonderful memories.

    YouTube - Obama Refuses to Retreat on Closing Guantanamo

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    Re: Obama, In A Blow To Closing Guantanamo, Signs Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Gitmo is all the fault of George Bush and as a result his staff has become too busy to protect the American people.

    Wonderful memories.

    YouTube - Obama Refuses to Retreat on Closing Guantanamo
    What do you doubt concerning what he says?

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    Re: Obama, In A Blow To Closing Guantanamo, Signs Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    They are not equal, and not doing the same. if you cannot see differences, this is the essence of bais. And no, Bush was not right. He lost his foolish mind. He showed he held no core values, and harm America in many, many ways. Obama is a step better, but only a step. Obama knows torture is wrong. He has been trying to close GITMO. He has not invaded another country outside the law and without any legal or moral jusitication. In fact, he hasn't actually invaded a country at all.
    And Bush was SO wrong that Obama has expanded the practice, denies terrorists constitutional rights, and continues to expand snatch and grabs and the use of black ops prisons in Afghanistan. Its all Bush's fault!

    Your position on this is myopic and pathetic.

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    Re: Obama, In A Blow To Closing Guantanamo, Signs Law

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    And Bush was SO wrong that Obama has expanded the practice, denies terrorists constitutional rights, and continues to expand snatch and grabs and the use of black ops prisons in Afghanistan. Its all Bush's fault!

    Your position on this is myopic and pathetic.
    Expanded? No. He clearly stated torture was wrong. Something Bush refused to do, as Bush simply made excuses to torture. For example.

    And you fail to address the other point, and acknowledge those who have hinder Obama's efforts to close GITMO. Is it because you really do know I'm right about this?

    But do link something credibile that supports your claim. I would love to examine it.

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    Re: Obama, In A Blow To Closing Guantanamo, Signs Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Expanded? No. He clearly stated torture was wrong. Something Bush refused to do, as Bush simply made excuses to torture. For example.

    And you fail to address the other point, and acknowledge those who have hinder Obama's efforts to close GITMO. Is it because you really do know I'm right about this?

    But do link something credibile that supports your claim. I would love to examine it.
    He is so terribly hindered he has expanded black ops snatch in grabs in 75 countries, up from the 60 by Bush. He has increased the use of black ops prisons in Afghnaistan. All of those have been linked and posted in the past but you conveniently ignore the reality that AObama is SOOO upset about GITMO that he does the same thing and more in other countries. And face it...for all your winging and whining about Bush and GITMO, there is a reason you dont address the other places...because it just makes your position that much more foolish.

    Like I said before...Obama has grown up from his silky campaign speeches and stepped into the real world...something you and people like you never have and never will do.

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    Re: Obama, In A Blow To Closing Guantanamo, Signs Law

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    He is so terribly hindered he has expanded black ops snatch in grabs in 75 countries, up from the 60 by Bush. He has increased the use of black ops prisons in Afghnaistan. All of those have been linked and posted in the past but you conveniently ignore the reality that AObama is SOOO upset about GITMO that he does the same thing and more in other countries. And face it...for all your winging and whining about Bush and GITMO, there is a reason you dont address the other places...because it just makes your position that much more foolish.

    Like I said before...Obama has grown up from his silky campaign speeches and stepped into the real world...something you and people like you never have and never will do.
    By all means, link your source. As I said, I would love to examine it.

    A search came up with almost nothing. Your exact sentence however can be found here:

    Obama Has Expanded Cheney's "Black Ops" Worldwide; Prisoner Abuse Exposed at "Special Operations" Prison in Afghanistan

    And that is hardly a sound source.

    So, I ask again, do you have a credible source?

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    Re: Obama, In A Blow To Closing Guantanamo, Signs Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    What do you doubt concerning what he says?
    Boo, the man is a serial liar. It is wise to doubt everything he says, and folly not to.

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    Re: Obama, In A Blow To Closing Guantanamo, Signs Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    The difference between myself and you is that I'm looking at all of it
    and john kerry, jim webb, daniel inouye, jay rockefeller, ron wyden, harry reid and 43 other dem senators, as well as 144 in nancy's condensed caucus, aren't?

    LOL!

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    Re: Obama, In A Blow To Closing Guantanamo, Signs Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    while you want to ignore the obsticles (sic) he has faced, pretending that he changed his mind because he now believes it should be open, that is simply not consistent with the facts.
    who's pretending?

    obama still WANTS to close gitmo

    it's just that he CAN'T

    cuz he's WEAK

    it's his WEAKNESS that accounts for his dismal DEFEAT on this front

    ask the EIGHTY PERCENT of his party in congress

    sorry

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