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    Re: Obama, In A Blow To Closing Guantanamo, Signs Law

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Backpedaling your dishonesty now?
    You are hard to follow. I have no idea what you're talking about.



    "D" vs "R" is the only stipulation for you,
    Like I said, that makes it easy for you. It's a weak cop out that allows you to avoid thought. I got that.



    I am the honest one in this conversation as I don't have a horse in this race. you excuse Obama for everything you stand against. It's pathetic and sad to watch, seriously...

    Obama paid lip service, then continued bush's policies, you, close your eyes to this fact to excuse the behavior of your president.

    So either he is a failure or a liar, either way the things you pretend to abhor are still happening.
    Tell yourself whatever you have to, but know. Whenever you treat unequal things as if they were equal, you're not honest.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obama, In A Blow To Closing Guantanamo, Signs Law

    absolutely

    kerry, difi, webb, inouye, FEINGOLD, carper, boxer, mccaskill, nelson, nelson, conrad, bingaman, baucus, warner, REID, udall, udall, akaka, stabenow, kohl, klobuchar, MENENDEZ, SCHUMER, franken, WYDEN, ROCKEFELLER, lautenberg, shaheen, mikulski, murray, cantwell, byrd...

    why, they're just not HONEST

    LOL!

    must be that moral compass thing, again

    and the fact obama is not a KING

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    Re: Obama, In A Blow To Closing Guantanamo, Signs Law

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    he doesn't need excusing, he did the RIGHT THING

    ask KERRY and DIFI and BOXER...

    why, that's a horrible thing to say about john f kerry

    he woulda been president, everyone knows, if it weren't for OHIO

    LOL!
    Every time this comes up they conveeeeeniently ignore the fact that not only did the Chosen One NOT shut down GITMO and endorse military tribunals, he also has refused to offer constitutional protections, increased snatch and grab black-ops in more countries throughout the world, and manages black-ops prisons in other countries. So...apparently President Obama grew up from candidate obama, while the mindless ideologues on the left...well...havent. for them its still Bush Bad, Obama...awesome!!!

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    Re: Obama, In A Blow To Closing Guantanamo, Signs Law

    yes, obama extended the PATRIOT ACT

    he continued RENDITION and DETENTION

    he chickened out on PROSECUTING THE CIA

    his heart's in the right place (from the uber left perspective)

    it's just that he HAS NO IDEA HOW TO BE PRESIDENT

    at least not in america

    remember when he fantasized about being boss of CHINA?

    LOL!

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    Re: Obama, In A Blow To Closing Guantanamo, Signs Law

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Every time this comes up they conveeeeeniently ignore the fact that not only did the Chosen One NOT shut down GITMO and endorse military tribunals, he also has refused to offer constitutional protections, increased snatch and grab black-ops in more countries throughout the world, and manages black-ops prisons in other countries. So...apparently President Obama grew up from candidate obama, while the mindless ideologues on the left...well...havent. for them its still Bush Bad, Obama...awesome!!!
    You misread. It's bad for both of them. But they are not equal. Bush created a mess that cannot easily be pushed aside. Nor can you remove the congressional cowardance and fear mongering. All anyone has asked is that your side be honest.

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    Re: Obama, In A Blow To Closing Guantanamo, Signs Law

    your side---LOL!

    in this case, "your side" includes EVERY republican in congress, A HUNDRED AND FORTY FOUR democrats downstairs and FIFTY dems in the senate

    that'd be pretty much every ELECTED democrat in the country

    except poor barry obama who just doesn't know how this country works

    why, that's an awful lot of congressional COWARDANCE on display, no?

    LOL!

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    Re: Obama, In A Blow To Closing Guantanamo, Signs Law

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    your side---LOL!

    in this case, "your side" includes EVERY republican in congress, A HUNDRED AND FORTY FOUR democrats downstairs and FIFTY dems in the senate

    that'd be pretty much every ELECTED democrat in the country

    except poor barry obama who just doesn't know how this country works

    why, that's an awful lot of congressional COWARDANCE on display, no?

    LOL!
    You guys divide into parties, not me.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obama, In A Blow To Closing Guantanamo, Signs Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You misread. It's bad for both of them. But they are not equal. Bush created a mess that cannot easily be pushed aside. Nor can you remove the congressional cowardance and fear mongering. All anyone has asked is that your side be honest.
    Nah...its worse because while Bush did what he believed was and is the right thing and is unapologetic about it, your demogod spoke against it before he not only accepted it but expanded it...and that is dwarfed by YOUR continued hypocritcal insistence that Bush still bad and evil but Obama just a poor pawn in the game of life. You continue to blame Obamas current decisions to deny constitutional rights to terrorists and expand black-ops snatch and grabs on Bush. Face it...you are a hack. Your mindless hatred of bush ignores the reality that Obama has recognized and learned from. Obama embraced reality, not because he was stuck, but because as president he cant just continue to make pretty campaign speeches to doe-eyed mindless minions...he has to actually fight against people that would do the country harm.
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    Re: Obama, In A Blow To Closing Guantanamo, Signs Law

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Nah...its worse because while Bush did what he believed was and is the right thing and is unapologetic about it, your demogod spoke against it before he not only accepted it but expanded it...and thats dwarfed by your continued hypocrtical insistence that Bush still bad but not only is Obama just a poor pawn in the game of life but you continue to blame Obamas current decisions to deny constitutional rights to terrorists and expand black-ops snatch and grabs. Face it...you are a hack. Your mindless hatred of bush ignores the reality that Obama has recognized and learned from. Obama embraced reality, not because he was stuck, but because as president he cant just continue to make pretty campaign speeches to doe-eyed mindless minions...he has to actually fight against people that would do the country harm.
    It doesn't matter what he believed. He could fully believe breaking the law was right, but it would not make it right. Many an immoral person fail to see their own immorality. He condone torture, violated the law more than once, and invaded a country without legal or moral cause, bringing death and misery to many. It doesn't matter what he thought. He was wrong.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obama, In A Blow To Closing Guantanamo, Signs Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    It doesn't matter what he believed. He could fully believe breaking the law was right, but it would not make it right. Many an immoral person fail to see their own immorality. He condone torture, violated the law more than once, and invaded a country without legal or moral cause, bringing death and misery to many. It doesn't matter what he thought. He was wrong.
    You dont get to be the arbiter of right and wrong and your moral high ground is kinda demolished by your continued and insistent defense of Obama. Sorry dude...you just plain ol look silly. Again. Still.

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