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    Re: Obama, In A Blow To Closing Guantanamo, Signs Law

    Well...there you go...the idiot that is blinded by his own myopic hatred of republicans and cant see beyond his mindless 13 year old thought capacity refuses to accept that both parties were in on it from the beginning and that a democrat president has changed his mind on closing GITMO, expanded black ops prisons, and refused to grant constitutional rights to rterrorists because oh yeah...it was a pretty stupid thing to believe he should do from the get-go...

    And BTW...when attacking others intelligence, you might want to actually spell 'idiot' correctly.

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    Re: Obama, In A Blow To Closing Guantanamo, Signs Law

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Well...there you go...the idiot that is blinded by his own myopic hatred of republicans and cant see beyond his mindless 13 year old thought capacity refuses to accept that both parties were in on it from the beginning and that a democrat president has changed his mind on closing GITMO, expanded black ops prisons, and refused to grant constitutional rights to rterrorists because oh yeah...it was a pretty stupid thing to believe he should do from the get-go...

    And BTW...when attacking others intelligence, you might want to actually spell 'idiot' correctly.
    Just shows you're not paying attention and are simply looking for a way to excuse the president and his party. An the only intelligence I was questioning was that of the one who openned GITMO, which was far less intelligent than a typo. All I'm asking is for your side to take personal responsibility. Stop trying to pass the buck and blame others. no matter who was briefed, the responsibility falls on those who chose to open the palce and ignore rule of law.

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    Re: Obama, In A Blow To Closing Guantanamo, Signs Law

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    How about the "idiot" who promised to close it?
    And tried. Signed the order. Then, and as I said we ahve to ignore thier responsibility because they're republican, the fear mongering started. Only democrats can he held responsible. Republicans, it would seem, need to blame others for their actions, be it the democrats or the media or liberals. They seem incapable of being responsible for their own actions.

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    Re: Obama, In A Blow To Closing Guantanamo, Signs Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    And tried. Signed the order. Then, and as I said we ahve to ignore thier responsibility because they're republican, the fear mongering started. Only democrats can he held responsible. Republicans, it would seem, need to blame others for their actions, be it the democrats or the media or liberals. They seem incapable of being responsible for their own actions.



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    Re: Obama, In A Blow To Closing Guantanamo, Signs Law

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    Re: Obama, In A Blow To Closing Guantanamo, Signs Law

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    I can't even fathom what excuse you are trying to make here.
    Excuse? none. It's disappointing Obama couldn't get it done. I'm merely saying you excuse repubglicans too quickly, never holding them responsible for their actions. The use the politics of fear to convince people we couldn't move them here or try them. And it was a republican administration and policy that led to making it difficult to prosecute as they violated rule of law, repeatedly. Again, everyone is responsible for what they ahve done and ahven't done. Just be honest about it.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obama, In A Blow To Closing Guantanamo, Signs Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Just shows you're not paying attention and are simply looking for a way to excuse the president and his party. An the only intelligence I was questioning was that of the one who openned GITMO, which was far less intelligent than a typo. All I'm asking is for your side to take personal responsibility. Stop trying to pass the buck and blame others. no matter who was briefed, the responsibility falls on those who chose to open the palce and ignore rule of law.
    Thats your problem...you actually think Bush (or those that actually still support it) are shirking their responsibility in the process. Bush believed it was the right thing. So did all the democrats that now whine and cry about it even though they were briefed from the get go. The only people that are inconsistent are the idiots on the left that suddenly wanted to pretend they knew nothing about it...and the ones that blindly swallow everything they are fed. Oh...of course...and the chosen One who not only changed his stance but increased black ops prisons in other countries.

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    Re: Obama, In A Blow To Closing Guantanamo, Signs Law

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Thats your problem...you actually think Bush (or those that actually still support it) are shirking their responsibility in the process. Bush believed it was the right thing. So did all the democrats that now whine and cry about it even though they were briefed from the get go. The only people that are inconsistent are the idiots on the left that suddenly wanted to pretend they knew nothing about it...and the ones that blindly swallow everything they are fed. Oh...of course...and the chosen One who not only changed his stance but increased black ops prisons in other countries.
    Who has pretended they knew nothing about it? Who knew of the torture? Who knew of the secret prisons there?

    But that was never the point. More than a few stupid people think they are right. But ignoring rule of law is not right, for either party. If we don't have the evidence, those people should be free no matter what you or I fear. Rule of law is depended on what we can prove and not what we fear.

    And let's not ignore the role repulicans and congress played in preventing the closing from happening. All are responsible for their actions.

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    Re: Obama, In A Blow To Closing Guantanamo, Signs Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Excuse? none. It's disappointing Obama couldn't get it done. I'm merely saying you excuse repubglicans too quickly, never holding them responsible for their actions. The use the politics of fear to convince people we couldn't move them here or try them. And it was a republican administration and policy that led to making it difficult to prosecute as they violated rule of law, repeatedly. Again, everyone is responsible for what they ahve done and ahven't done. Just be honest about it.

    So Bush is an "idiot" but Obama is only slightly "disapointing".....


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    Re: Obama, In A Blow To Closing Guantanamo, Signs Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Who has pretended they knew nothing about it? Who knew of the torture? Who knew of the secret prisons there?

    But that was never the point. More than a few stupid people think they are right. But ignoring rule of law is not right, for either party. If we don't have the evidence, those people should be free no matter what you or I fear. Rule of law is depended on what we can prove and not what we fear.

    And let's not ignore the role repulicans and congress played in preventing the closing from happening. All are responsible for their actions.
    The senior democrats were inbreifed on waterboarding procedures. Yes...the same ones that later expressed outrage (hint...Pelosi...Feinstein, etc). And since those secret prisons are so bad the chosen One shouldnt be expanding their use in Afghanistan...right?

    It matters not...mindless ideologues see ONLY what they choose to see. And you know the drill...republicans and Bush BAD...evil...and responsible for all the ills of the world (the counter to that of course is "Democrats are ****ing stupid beyond words and so easily manipulated by Bush"). And I know that...why I bother to occasionally communicate with you is beyond me...

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