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    Re: Obama, In A Blow To Closing Guantanamo, Signs Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Did anyone actually believe he was going to close it?
    .....50 million brain dead democrats did.....
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    Re: Obama, In A Blow To Closing Guantanamo, Signs Law

    The GC provides that Enemy Combatants can be held until the close of hostilities.

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    Well if that's true then putting these people on trial should be no problem. You're telling me there is no legal recourse besides extraditing people to countries where we can hold them indefinitely? I wouldn't be surprised to hear we still torture as well.
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    Re: Obama, In A Blow To Closing Guantanamo, Signs Law

    Another tragedy compounded on top of the 9-11 tragedy. How can we ever obtain justice when the alleged mass murderers were severely victimized while in the custody of our government? All the evidence is tainted. They will never see the inside of an American court. We are left now without resolution, in a kind of limbo, holding them all their natural days: no justice for them or, more important, for us.
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    Re: Obama, In A Blow To Closing Guantanamo, Signs Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    Another tragedy compounded on top of the 9-11 tragedy. How can we ever obtain justice when the alleged mass murderers were severely victimized while in the custody of our government? All the evidence is tainted. They will never see the inside of an American court. We are left now without resolution, in a kind of limbo, holding them all their natural days: no justice for them or, more important, for us.
    Yeah, we randomly just pick up Arab looking dudes and waterboard them.

    We're just awful.

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    Re: Obama, In A Blow To Closing Guantanamo, Signs Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Yeah, we randomly just pick up Arab looking dudes and waterboard them.

    We're just awful.
    Not quite, but a lot of the people we do lock up indefinitely and without trial were simply people on the battlefield in the wrong place at the wrong time.

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    Re: Obama, In A Blow To Closing Guantanamo, Signs Law

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Not quite, but a lot of the people we do lock up indefinitely and without trial were simply people on the battlefield in the wrong place at the wrong time.
    Whatever. You have absolutely no proof of that. We do know that we have released prisoners that have turned up on the battlefields all over again.

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    Re: Obama, In A Blow To Closing Guantanamo, Signs Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Whatever. You have absolutely no proof of that. We do know that we have released prisoners that have turned up on the battlefields all over again.
    both are true. What's sadder is that some of them aren't terrorists to begin with but end up becoming terrorists after returning.

    Bolded part: some of the JAG lawyers would disagree.
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    Re: Obama, In A Blow To Closing Guantanamo, Signs Law

    Quote Originally Posted by SirPwn4lot View Post
    And... his justice department had been fighting the idea anyway.

    His term has been largely similar to Bush's 2nd.
    Bush's first term was largely similar to his 2nd

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    Re: Obama, In A Blow To Closing Guantanamo, Signs Law

    instead of keep people imprisoned for years without charging them or granting them access to any sort of legal counsel, we could always use direct, conclusive evidence to get a conviction and then sentence them accordingly.

    shouldn't be that hard should it?
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    Re: Obama, In A Blow To Closing Guantanamo, Signs Law

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Not quite, but a lot of the people we do lock up indefinitely and without trial were simply people on the battlefield in the wrong place at the wrong time.
    Not the people that end up at GITMO. They dont send just anyone there. And frankly...when your passport says Jakarta and you are captured after a skirmish with Taliban in the mountains of Afghanistan, its safe to say that thats not a simple case of mistaken identity. You also cant mirandize them, send in a CSI team (like...in the TV shows and stuff) and collect evidence. Those folks typical arent treated like comman Aerican criminals that have been arrested by the cops following nice and clean rules because...well...they arent American citizens...dont fall under the constitution, and you cant issue a warrant before you go into battle.

    Its kinda complex...but then...not.

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