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    Re: Obama, In A Blow To Closing Guantanamo, Signs Law

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    It is futile indeed, and I will admit that I voted for him, hoping he would not close Gitmo. I cannot understand the need of Americans to bring those who wanted to blow the country up into the country.
    What difference would it make? We have some of them here now, in prison, and they have been ubale to do squat.

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    Re: Obama, In A Blow To Closing Guantanamo, Signs Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Sterotype much? how do you know that the lack of embarassment is not only in your mind?

    Need a refill Joe? :p

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    Re: Obama, In A Blow To Closing Guantanamo, Signs Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Need a refill Joe? :p
    Just walked over and got a refill. Thanks.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obama, In A Blow To Closing Guantanamo, Signs Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    What difference would it make? We have some of them here now, in prison, and they have been ubale to do squat.
    Here is the thing. If they are not guilty, then send them back home. If they are, and you place them into US prisons, then they are in danger from other prisoners. If you leave them in US isolation, then what is the difference in them being in Gitmo? Finally, Obama would have lost either way he went on this. If he refused to sign it, then he would be accused of "not supporting the troops." By signing it, he is accused of supporting Gitmo. Life is tough and tough decisions have to be made, even those we do not necessarily agree with.

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    Re: Obama, In A Blow To Closing Guantanamo, Signs Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Apples to tree frogs again? If a president could handle everythingwith an executive order, we don't need congress. Do we?
    hysterics and hyperbole again?
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    Re: Obama, In A Blow To Closing Guantanamo, Signs Law

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    hysterics and hyperbole again?
    That does describe what you're trying to do.

    If the president could just place everything he wants in a executive order, there would be no need for congress. Just pass it on to the president. Bush overused the executive order, and it did hurt us a good deal. We should not encourage this type of by passing of congress.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obama, In A Blow To Closing Guantanamo, Signs Law

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    Here is the thing. If they are not guilty, then send them back home. If they are, and you place them into US prisons, then they are in danger from other prisoners. If you leave them in US isolation, then what is the difference in them being in Gitmo? Finally, Obama would have lost either way he went on this. If he refused to sign it, then he would be accused of "not supporting the troops." By signing it, he is accused of supporting Gitmo. Life is tough and tough decisions have to be made, even those we do not necessarily agree with.
    We have them in this country now. Have they been killed?

    As for difference, we have rule of law here. Gitmo has been run largely outside of rule of law, and we would have greater control and less ability to ignore rule of law here. They are no real danger to us, and not really any danger from prisoners here.

    And yes, I agree decisions are tough. And there is a large difference between what any politiican promises and what that politician can deliver.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obama, In A Blow To Closing Guantanamo, Signs Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    We have them in this country now. Have they been killed?

    As for difference, we have rule of law here. Gitmo has been run largely outside of rule of law, and we would have greater control and less ability to ignore rule of law here. They are no real danger to us, and not really any danger from prisoners here.

    And yes, I agree decisions are tough. And there is a large difference between what any politiican promises and what that politician can deliver.
    No they have not been killed, but they have been kept in solitary confinement for "national security reasons," so with that there is no real difference. Citing national security to blanket actions happen in country as well as out.

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    Re: Obama, In A Blow To Closing Guantanamo, Signs Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    That does describe what you're trying to do.

    If the president could just place everything he wants in a executive order, there would be no need for congress. Just pass it on to the president. Bush overused the executive order, and it did hurt us a good deal. We should not encourage this type of by passing of congress.


    I hope there aren't any drunks or drug addicts around you. you would be what's called an "enabler".....


    seriously man, the new guy, same as the old guy.

    D congress
    D house
    D President.


    what did they do to reverse what you think W did wrong?
    Let evil swiftly befall those who have wrongly condemned us

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    Re: Obama, In A Blow To Closing Guantanamo, Signs Law

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    No they have not been killed, but they have been kept in solitary confinement for "national security reasons," so with that there is no real difference. Citing national security to blanket actions happen in country as well as out.
    Prisoners who are not terrorist have been so held, and we seem quite fine with that.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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