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    Re: Arizona Sheriff Blasts Rush Limbaugh for Spewing 'Irresponsible' Vitriol

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    So, what, the Congresswoman was just a random victim? No, he clearly decided, from outside influences, that she was a threat to his ideology.
    What ideology was that exactly, and what evidence do your base your seeming declaration of his ideology on?

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    Re: Arizona Sheriff Blasts Rush Limbaugh for Spewing 'Irresponsible' Vitriol

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    Right then, you really don't think that the woman's name in crosshairs on a nationally visited site has anything to do with her shooting?
    Highly doubtful. The guy believed 9/11 was perpetrated by Bush and Iraq/Afghanistan were illegal wars - I must have missed that plank of the republican platform.

    But, forgetting all that, if you saw a crosshair over a targeted district for possible republican pick-up, wouldn't you have, at the very least, voted in the election to unseat her? Or would you just wait for her to win a close election then decide to shoot her?

    The guy was a nut job. I don't believe Sarah Palin's ad caused him to do what he did, just as I don't believe the left wing blog (Daily Kos was it?) that targeted the district because she wasn't liberal enough caused him to do this.

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    Re: Arizona Sheriff Blasts Rush Limbaugh for Spewing 'Irresponsible' Vitriol

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    What ideology was that exactly, and what evidence do your base your seeming declaration of his ideology on?
    The guy tried to assassinate someone who was labelled under a crosshair on a nationally-visited conservative website. It is my assumption, of course, but a bloody logical assumption I should think, to say that this has something to do with her shooting, and thus, that he pays some heed to Palin's words or websites.

    I can from there garner his most probably political leanings.

    That's called Ockham's Razor, mate -- the most logical solution is almost always preferable to less logical ones. Woman's name in crosshairs on conservative site + woman being shot = woman being shot by conservative killer.

    COULD be false, but Ockham's Razor, and inherent intuition, reason and basic common sense, say that it's true.

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    Re: Arizona Sheriff Blasts Rush Limbaugh for Spewing 'Irresponsible' Vitriol

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    The guy tried to assassinate someone who was labelled under a crosshair on a nationally-visited conservative website. It is my assumption, of course, but a bloody logical assumption I should think, to say that this has something to do with her shooting, and thus, that he pays some heed to Palin's words or websites.

    I can from there garner his most probably political leanings.

    That's called Ockham's Razor, mate -- the most logical solution is almost always preferable to less logical ones. Woman's name in crosshairs on conservative site + woman being shot = woman being shot by conservative killer.

    COULD be false, but Ockham's Razor, and inherent intuition, reason and basic common sense, say that it's true.
    You don't even know whether or not he saw that website much less acted on it, and according to those who were familiar with him he had no interest in politics. What was it about the website that made him murder a little girl and several others? Can you Ockham's razor that?

    Were you also affected by the website and considering killing innocent people, or is that something that only a psychopath might do?

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    Re: Arizona Sheriff Blasts Rush Limbaugh for Spewing 'Irresponsible' Vitriol

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    The guy tried to assassinate someone who was labelled under a crosshair on a nationally-visited conservative website. It is my assumption, of course, but a bloody logical assumption I should think, to say that this has something to do with her shooting, and thus, that he pays some heed to Palin's words or websites.

    I can from there garner his most probably political leanings.

    That's called Ockham's Razor, mate -- the most logical solution is almost always preferable to less logical ones. Woman's name in crosshairs on conservative site + woman being shot = woman being shot by conservative killer.

    COULD be false, but Ockham's Razor, and inherent intuition, reason and basic common sense, say that it's true.
    The reality is, that short of Loughner explicitly stating, "I killed those people because Rush/Beck/Hannity/Levin/Palin told me to", the assumption that any of those people motivated his actions is nothing short of idiotic.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Arizona Sheriff Blasts Rush Limbaugh for Spewing 'Irresponsible' Vitriol

    [QUOTE=Le Marteau;1059212430]Alright then, if it wasn't some vitriole-spewing fool like Beck or Limbaugh that turned the shooter against the Congresswoman, who was it?QUOTE]

    According to what has been put out, he didn't like the way she answered a question in 2007 when he met her.
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    Re: Arizona Sheriff Blasts Rush Limbaugh for Spewing 'Irresponsible' Vitriol

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    The guy tried to assassinate someone who was labelled under a crosshair on a nationally-visited conservative website. It is my assumption, of course, but a bloody logical assumption I should think, to say that this has something to do with her shooting, and thus, that he pays some heed to Palin's words or websites.

    I can from there garner his most probably political leanings.

    That's called Ockham's Razor, mate -- the most logical solution is almost always preferable to less logical ones. Woman's name in crosshairs on conservative site + woman being shot = woman being shot by conservative killer.

    COULD be false, but Ockham's Razor, and inherent intuition, reason and basic common sense, say that it's true.
    Sounds more to me like the availability bias than Ockham's razor. Your reasoning is irrational, not logical.

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    Re: Arizona Sheriff Blasts Rush Limbaugh for Spewing 'Irresponsible' Vitriol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    Alright then, if it wasn't some vitriole-spewing fool like Beck or Limbaugh that turned the shooter against the Congresswoman, who was it?QUOTE]

    According to what has been put out, he didn't like the way she answered a question in 2007 when he met her.
    Interesting. What was the question?

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    Re: Arizona Sheriff Blasts Rush Limbaugh for Spewing 'Irresponsible' Vitriol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post

    Interesting. What was the question?


    CBS News Justice and Homeland Security correspondent Bob Orr said on "Face the Nation" Sunday, "We do know from our sources and from our national security analyst Juan Zarate that Loughner had an interaction once before with Congresswoman Giffords back in 2007, where he apparently posed a question to her, kind of a benign question.

    "She answered the question; he didn't find it acceptable, he didn't like the answer," Orr said.


    "Loner" Jared Loughner Spoke to Giffords in 2007 - Face The Nation - CBS News

    "We should say that Loughner has made threats in the past," Orr added. "Police knew this guy. He had made these threats, general in nature, not specific."

    Orr said that Loughner had not been arrested for the threats and therefore had nothing on him that was actionable.
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    Re: Arizona Sheriff Blasts Rush Limbaugh for Spewing 'Irresponsible' Vitriol

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    Interesting. What was the question?
    You apparently don't even have any facts. You just want to blame a conservative. How could you not love that.

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