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    Re: Arizona Suspect's Erratic Behavior Raises Questions About Gun Sales

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    i looked at each of your posts in that 10 page thread and found that you offered NO cites
    looks like you have no proof
    just as was expected
    You apparently didn't read very thoroughly then. I stated clearly where all my information came from each time I cited a statistic. You're just not interested in hearing it and I can't help that. I don't make an effort to debate people that aren't worth my time.
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    Re: Arizona Suspect's Erratic Behavior Raises Questions About Gun Sales

    Quote Originally Posted by theangryamerican View Post
    You apparently didn't read very thoroughly then. I stated clearly where all my information came from each time I cited a statistic. You're just not interested in hearing it and I can't help that. I don't make an effort to debate people that aren't worth my time.
    not a single cite
    just your instence that you have support for your views
    nothing verifiable
    typical
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    Re: Arizona Suspect's Erratic Behavior Raises Questions About Gun Sales

    Oh dang. I had the story in my mind wrong then. I thought police found a full auto and people heard sprays of gunfire. Its unfortunate the shooter was so accurate with his bullets.
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    Re: Arizona Suspect's Erratic Behavior Raises Questions About Gun Sales

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    Oh dang. I had the story in my mind wrong then. I thought police found a full auto and people heard sprays of gunfire. Its unfortunate the shooter was so accurate with his bullets.
    I don't think it was a matter of accurracy, just a tightly packed group. People couldn't get away in time, from the sound of it.
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    Re: Arizona Suspect's Erratic Behavior Raises Questions About Gun Sales

    Hey angryamerican are you ever going to tell me how you know so much about AZ gun law that you can justify a statement like "there's no way it can be improved." You've avoided answering it over and over again and I'm starting to think you don't know dick about my state's gun laws.

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    Re: Arizona Suspect's Erratic Behavior Raises Questions About Gun Sales

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Hey angryamerican are you ever going to tell me how you know so much about AZ gun law that you can justify a statement like "there's no way it can be improved." You've avoided answering it over and over again and I'm starting to think you don't know dick about my state's gun laws.
    so people's medical records should be divulged without court action



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    Re: Arizona Suspect's Erratic Behavior Raises Questions About Gun Sales

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    not a single cite
    just your instence that you have support for your views
    nothing verifiable
    typical
    Seriously... this is the last time I bite for your stupid trolling.

    In 1966, the city of Orlando responded to a wave of sexual assaults by offering firearms training classes to women. Rapes dropped by nearly 90% the following year.
    Easily verifiable via Google, but it was originally published in Department of Justice's National Crime Victimization Survey. That one, I apologize for not citing directly.

    From the Journal of Criminal Law and Criminology, we learn that every year, people in the United States use a gun to defend themselves against criminals an estimated 2,500,000 times, which breaks down to about 6,500 people a day, or once every 13 seconds. Of these instances, 15.6% of the people using a firearm defensively stated that they "almost certainly" saved their lives by doing so.

    The FBI did a study titled “Critical Incidents in Policing” which tells us that out of 83.5% (2,087,500) of these successful gun defenses, the attacker either threatened or used force first.

    Finally, a National Crime Victimization Survey done over a period of several years concluded that 76% of all uses of guns as a means of self-defense never involve firing a single shot.
    Now please, try reading. Those are not opinions. Now, if you would like to contribute usefully to the discussion at hand, feel free to do so.
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    Re: Arizona Suspect's Erratic Behavior Raises Questions About Gun Sales

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    so people's medical records should be divulged without court action
    That was just an idea I had, I wasn't advocating it as a solution because I knew there would be things that would crop up when it was confronted, like for example it would mean divulging medical information to additional parties. But it was just an idea, what I'm really here in this topic for is to get AngryAmerican to acknowledge he's let his opinions get the better of him.

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    Re: Arizona Suspect's Erratic Behavior Raises Questions About Gun Sales

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    so people's medical records should be divulged without court action
    if you want credit, you will authorize the prospective lender access to your credit records

    if you want a gun permit, you will authorize the issuing party access to your medical records
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    Re: Arizona Suspect's Erratic Behavior Raises Questions About Gun Sales

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Hey angryamerican are you ever going to tell me how you know so much about AZ gun law that you can justify a statement like "there's no way it can be improved." You've avoided answering it over and over again and I'm starting to think you don't know dick about my state's gun laws.
    Hey, Wiseone, I live in a state bordering AZ and have to be familiar with your gun laws because I pass through AZ several times a year on my way to CA. Now... try to contribute intelligently to the discussion.
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