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    Re: Arizona Suspect's Erratic Behavior Raises Questions About Gun Sales

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    but what we do know is that the nation which tolerates widespread gun ownership has over 26 times the murder rate caused by guns when compared to the nation which restricts gun ownership

    USA 3.98
    england 0.15

    homicides per 100,00 population
    England had almost no crime back in the days when they didn't restrict guns

    factor out black on black drug crime, we have a lower rate of gun crime than white Briitish



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    Re: Arizona Suspect's Erratic Behavior Raises Questions About Gun Sales

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    how so, since the data was presented per 100,000 population
    Do you even know what demographics means? No wonder you seem to be having a hard time understanding.
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    Re: Arizona Suspect's Erratic Behavior Raises Questions About Gun Sales

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Do you even know what demographics means? No wonder you seem to be having a hard time understanding.
    that only explains it on this issue



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    Re: Arizona Suspect's Erratic Behavior Raises Questions About Gun Sales

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    England had almost no crime back in the days when they didn't restrict guns

    factor out black on black drug crime, we have a lower rate of gun crime than white Briitish
    let's see your stats for both
    until then, i call bull****
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    Re: Arizona Suspect's Erratic Behavior Raises Questions About Gun Sales

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    let's see your stats for both
    until then, i call bull****
    Welcome to the real world.

    While African Americans comprise 13.5% of the U.S. Population, 43% of all murder victims in 2007 were African American, 93.1% of whom were killed were African Americans.

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    Re: Arizona Suspect's Erratic Behavior Raises Questions About Gun Sales

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Do you even know what demographics means? No wonder you seem to be having a hard time understanding.
    there is a difference of homicide by gun that is over 2600% apart between the USA and england

    you insist the difference is explained by "demographics" as if that alone explains it

    show us data which identifies what about the differences in demographics is responsible for that 2600+% differential in murder by gun rate

    you can't do it
    i called you on it
    and now you whine because i point out that you are without an explanation to account for the difference

    for extra credit offer up the difference in demographics which similarly explains the wide differences in homicide by gun rates with japan and canada
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    Re: Arizona Suspect's Erratic Behavior Raises Questions About Gun Sales

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    there is a difference of homicide by gun that is over 2600% apart between the USA and england

    you insist the difference is explained by "demographics" as if that alone explains it

    show us data which identifies what about the differences in demographics is responsible for that 2600+% differential in murder by gun rate

    you can't do it
    i called you on it
    and now you whine because i point out that you are without an explanation to account for the difference

    for extra credit offer up the difference in demographics which similarly explains the wide differences in homicide by gun rates with japan and canada
    Japan and Canada have large black and hispanic communities? They don't, do they?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
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    Re: Arizona Suspect's Erratic Behavior Raises Questions About Gun Sales

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Japan and Canada have large black and hispanic communities? They don't, do they?
    show us your data which proves that the demographic differences are responsible in the vast differences in gun homicide rates

    what about the variety of ethnicities in england; what about your demographics differences explains the 2600% delta in gun homicide rates

    you can't. you won't
    the thing that explains the difference in all instances is the availability of guns in the USA
    the stats establish a reality you do not want to admit
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    Re: Arizona Suspect's Erratic Behavior Raises Questions About Gun Sales

    Quote Originally Posted by theangryamerican View Post
    Color me surprised that it took less than 24 hours for someone to turn a tragic event into a political grandstand against gun ownership.

    Arizona Suspect's Erratic Behavior Raises Questions About Gun Sales
    I think the bigger thing to worry about is that the means to intervene and provide help to an individual who's a danger to others isn't there at all - or if it's there's it's extremely broken.

    Gun or no gun - he was still a horrible incident waiting to happen.

    also - the system that identifies routine offenders and possibly gets them off the streets seems to not be existent in this case, either - several arrests but no rap sheet, obviously something's not going all the way around the circle.
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    Re: Arizona Suspect's Erratic Behavior Raises Questions About Gun Sales

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    show us your data which proves that the demographic differences are responsible in the vast differences in gun homicide rates

    what about the variety of ethnicities in england; what about your demographics differences explains the 2600% delta in gun homicide rates

    you can't. you won't
    the thing that explains the difference in all instances is the availability of guns in the USA
    the stats establish a reality you do not want to admit
    Are you admitting that I actually have to show you that and you don't already realize it to be reality?

    How sad is that??
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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