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    Re: Arizona Suspect's Erratic Behavior Raises Questions About Gun Sales

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    maybe it's the intimidation
    you have experienced it

    it will make it much easier to identify weapons which should not be present
    and by making their possession illegal, it should keep many perps off the street for having carried
    None of which protects someone who is a victim of those illegal weapons.
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    Re: Arizona Suspect's Erratic Behavior Raises Questions About Gun Sales

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    maybe it's the intimidation
    you have experienced it
    So you would fight off, or attack an armed mugger, with your bare hands because you are such a bad ass? Is this your argument, my friend?


    Seriously?




    it will make it much easier to identify weapons which should not be present
    and by making their possession illegal, it should keep many perps off the street for having carried

    Nonsense, they already have mandatory sentences for committing crimes with an illegal weapon, not a deterrent.
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    Re: Arizona Suspect's Erratic Behavior Raises Questions About Gun Sales

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Nah...its much less civil nowadays...far greater need for people to be able to take care of themselves.
    to the contrary, an outright banning of all guns would stop a lot of our violence. not that i advocate that, but it's true.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Arizona Suspect's Erratic Behavior Raises Questions About Gun Sales

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    to the contrary, an outright banning of all guns would stop a lot of our violence. not that i advocate that, but it's true.
    The level of violence in cities like Washington D.C. and Chicago clearly serve as evidence to the contrary.
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    Re: Arizona Suspect's Erratic Behavior Raises Questions About Gun Sales

    Quote Originally Posted by theangryamerican View Post
    The level of violence in cities like Washington D.C. and Chicago clearly serve as evidence to the contrary.
    actually, they don't. if our COUNTRY banned guns, the supply would dry up. it's not enough to ban guns within specific cities.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Arizona Suspect's Erratic Behavior Raises Questions About Gun Sales

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    to the contrary, an outright banning of all guns would stop a lot of our violence. not that i advocate that, but it's true.
    How do you know it to be true?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Arizona Suspect's Erratic Behavior Raises Questions About Gun Sales

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    actually, they don't. if our COUNTRY banned guns, the supply would dry up. it's not enough to ban guns within specific cities.
    Despite the fact that both cities I listed are rampant crime holes, showing what happens when citizens can't legally protect themselves, let's look at the premise of your agrument.This sounds wonderful in theory, I agree. As stated before, if I was 100% guaranteed that the anyone else could protect me and my family, without my guns, as well as I can protect myself with them, I'd give up my firearms in a heartbeat (even my recreational guns that aren't used for self-defense.) The problem is you cannot successfully ban guns, not in a single city OR an entire country. You can stop selling them, but people will still have them. You can demand registration, but people won't comply. Do you realize that it's even entirely possible to make a gun from scratch?

    Assuming all guns magically disappeared, we would simply have more crime with other weapons. The difference would be that without the gun there is a disparity of a force. The gun allows the old, the weak, and the few to stand up to the young, the strong, and the many. In a world without guns, those with regard for the law would have no protection from those who do not.
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    Re: Arizona Suspect's Erratic Behavior Raises Questions About Gun Sales

    Quote Originally Posted by theangryamerican View Post
    Despite the fact that both cities I listed are rampant crime holes, showing what happens when citizens can't legally protect themselves, let's look at the premise of your agrument.This sounds wonderful in theory, I agree. As stated before, if I was 100% guaranteed that the anyone else could protect me and my family, without my guns, as well as I can protect myself with them, I'd give up my firearms in a heartbeat (even my recreational guns that aren't used for self-defense.) The problem is you cannot successfully ban guns, not in a single city OR an entire country. You can stop selling them, but people will still have them. You can demand registration, but people won't comply. Do you realize that it's even entirely possible to make a gun from scratch?

    Assuming all guns magically disappeared, we would simply have more crime with other weapons. The difference would be that without the gun there is a disparity of a force. The gun allows the old, the weak, and the few to stand up to the young, the strong, and the many. In a world without guns, those with regard for the law would have no protection from those who do not.
    i don't know how you can say that......countries with guns bans have far less violent crime than we do.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Arizona Suspect's Erratic Behavior Raises Questions About Gun Sales

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i don't know how you can say that......countries with guns bans have far less violent crime than we do.
    Please prove this assertion.
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    Re: Arizona Suspect's Erratic Behavior Raises Questions About Gun Sales

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i don't know how you can say that......countries with guns bans have far less violent crime than we do.
    The crime rate in Australia went up, after the gun ban in '96.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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