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This is a sad and dark day for my Arizona that I love and it's people.
This is a sad and dark day for my Arizona that I love and it's people.
Hay...Loughner isn't right wing or left wing. Looking at what he says, he believes a lot of far right and far left things...as Turtle said earlier, he's a bipartisan asshole. And there isn't any one group/person to blame. The rhetoric has been getting worse for a long time...
So, this hardly some kind of recent phenomenon. It would be the pinnacle of ignorance to blame this on anyone's political rhetoric. Anyone who believes that political rhetoric is the singular reason for these kinds of acts, should spend less time talking and more time soul searching.
I lived in AZ for some time. An awesome state.This is a sad and dark day for my Arizona that I love and it's people.
I lived in AZ for some time. An awesome state.
While I agree that rhetoric has hardly gotten worse, the problem todya is that it reaches more people then it used to, and there's a higher chance someone who listens to it is enraged, or is already a powder keg waiting to blow.
I lived in AZ for some time. An awesome state.
Anybody who would blame the state for what happened wouldn't be someone worth listening to.Yes my friend.. it's an awesome state and it's people are great and good people, it only takes a bad seed to make decent human beings look demonic and also bring a bad name if politically inclined.
This guy is nothing but a nut case as you know.
It is a normal human response to some act that they don't have enough facts on. You pass a motor vehicle accident and you try to speculate what caused it.
Yesterday there was initially such wild speculation whether Giffords was alive or dead by the media who had people on the scene.
With the Okalhoma City Bombing years ago speculation was way off the target by first accusing it to be from Muslims but in light of the climate then it was felt to make sense perhaps.
Am certain the police investigation is doing there speculation too and acting on it to see if it is founded or not. People here desire to know the truth too so in attempt to make sense of this.
Already many have labeled him insane but I am not so certain and believe this was a well planned out killing by someone of normal intelligence but then I am just speculating.
Anybody who would blame the state for what happened wouldn't be someone worth listening to.
I don't think the rhetoric is any worse now than it has been over the past 230 years. In 1804, Alexander Hamilton (former SECTRES) and Aaron Burr (the sitting VP), fought a dual and Hamilton was killed. Why? Because Hamilton had made the claim that Burr was, "A dangerous man, and one who ought not be trusted with the reins in government".
We've had 4 presidents assissinated--Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley and Kennedy. We've had two presidents wounded in assissination attempts--Teddy Roosevelt and Reagan. There have been actual attempts--Jackson, Lincoln (1861), Franklin Roosevelt, Truman, Kennedy (1960), Nixon, Ford (twice), Bush Sr. and Clinton (three times).
I think there have been 6 assissinations/assissination attempts upon congressmen.
So, this hardly some kind of recent phenomenon. It would be the pinnacle of ignorance to blame this on anyone's political rhetoric. Anyone who believes that political rhetoric is the singular reason for these kinds of acts, should spend less time talking and more time soul searching.
Really? So you feel the internet, and instant access to all the "good, bad and ugly" bears no part in in how information is spread and disseminated?
It doesn't matter. It's what someone does with that information that makes the difference.
If a kook decides he's going to kill innocent people, do we really care what sources he used to justify his actions?
I have heard 12 people have been shot and 5 are dead including a child..........It sounds like a terrorist attack.............
Now I have just heard that the Congresswoman is still alive at the hospital in critical condition...............
You are correct Navy....it was just another right-wing terrorist
how many 'right wingers' favorite book is the communist manifesto?
You are correct Navy....it was just another right-wing terrorist
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I largely agree with you. But much like yelling fire in a crowded theater, what is said can have an effect. I don't support censorship, but I also think much of our rhetoric deserves serious criticism and would love more responsible behavior from our political entertainers.