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Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

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Most people know it is not unusual for elected officials to receive death threats etc. Gifford was no exception. She'd had her office vandalized etc. She lives in AZ and supports securing the border. I heard that she was always concerned about her safety but even more the safety of her staff. I understood perfectly what you meant.

Of course people know that elected officials get threats.. hell public figures in general.. you seen the threats by teenage girls against Selena Gomez because she is shacking up with Justin Bieber?

Point is that MrVicchio did not state "elected" officials, but government officials. And like it or not there is a huge difference. And he has yet to accept that he ****ed up in not narrowlingly defining his comments to only elected officials .. heck top level elected officials.

And even then, I do not think any elected low level politician, judge or similar should expect to be targeted for attack and accept this on the day they start office... nor that better that it is "them" than someone else that get killed.. it is nothing but justifying in part the terrorist act's against our elected officials because of a hatred towards anything "government".
 
Of course people know that elected officials get threats.. hell public figures in general.. you seen the threats by teenage girls against Selena Gomez because she is shacking up with Justin Bieber?

Point is that MrVicchio did not state "elected" officials, but government officials. And like it or not there is a huge difference. And he has yet to accept that he ****ed up in not narrowlingly defining his comments to only elected officials .. heck top level elected officials.

And even then, I do not think any elected low level politician, judge or similar should expect to be targeted for attack and accept this on the day they start office... nor that better that it is "them" than someone else that get killed.. it is nothing but justifying in part the terrorist act's against our elected officials because of a hatred towards anything "government".

Why not take this garbage to one of the other threads?
 
Point is that MrVicchio did not state "elected" officials, but government officials. And like it or not there is a huge difference. And he has yet to accept that he ****ed up in not narrowlingly defining his comments to only elected officials .. heck top level elected officials.

Your point was unneccessary as it was obvious what he meant. He didn't "****" up. It was trivial. And perhaps you should seek actual arguments rather than whether or not an obvious statement was "narrow" enough for you. For that matter did he mention that she was a woman? Let's get real narrow as to avoid petty argument with PeteEU.
 
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Apparently he was simply sending those videos to all of his friends, which is why I found so many myspace accounts referring to those videos.

Anyway, did anyone notice the tags on the flag burning video?

* Flag
* burning
* Protest
* Genocide
* Desert
* protest
* masked
* Iraq
* tucson
* protests
* protesting
* arizona
* silent
* film
* human
* rights
* negation
* unlawful
* protested
* UN
* United
* Nations
* Illegal
* Ad
* Bce
* Date
* year
* 2010
* burned
* alone
* abuse
* mental
* harm
* cult
 
Dudes a freaking loon. Hands down, no if and or butts about it. Complete and total looney tunes.
 
I have said before that there has been a change in people's attitudes to politicians and we can expect more of this. It is seen in a increasing approval by people upsetting a politician's speech by verbal outrage.

There is so much hatred of both sides that some with mental imbalances will act on it. You see this tendency to make light of harm to the president. There was a recent thread here about a MMA fighter who wanted to beat down Obama. Many scoffed that he really didn't mean it and I doubt he actually wanted to attack the president. But is sets up a precedent that it is more and more okay to approve of such hatred.

At least snipe and don't kill innocent people.
 
The dude's definitely a nut job. It doesn't appear that he has a political leaning and is just generally ****ed in the head. I would bet that he went after Giffords, because she was the most convenient national politico to try and assissinate. That could have been any congress critter and I doubt it would have made a difference to this clown.
 
The dude's definitely a nut job. It doesn't appear that he has a political leaning and is just generally ****ed in the head. I would bet that he went after Giffords, because she was the most convenient national politico to try and assissinate. That could have been any congress critter and I doubt it would have made a difference to this clown.

He's actually a very political person in a creepy ****ed up sort of way.
What lean I do not know nor care, but he is engaging in mainly political rants and philosophical statements.
 
He's actually a very political person in a creepy ****ed up sort of way.
What lean I do not know nor care, but he is engaging in mainly political rants and philosophical statements.

That's exactly what I see. That's why I believe that he didn't set out to kill Congresswoman Giffords, but instead set out to kill a United States congress person.
 
The guy is obviously a loon. While I don't think his political leanings had anything to do with him shooting someone, I think it will come out that this guy is a left-wing nut-job. Talking about government mind control and brainwashing conspiracies, etc. Definetly fits in with how I look at most left-wingers. we'll find out for sure soon, I would guess.
 

The little girl died, and the Fed Judge...

I have to ask, in a scenario like this, can we skip straight to the lethal injection? The murderer was caught on the scence by a by-stander, there is no freaking question he did this act, and he's obviously crazy enough to be dangerous to society. If nothing else, it would cost too much to put him in a crazy house (which I'm sure his attorney is going to suggest).
 
The guy is obviously a loon. While I don't think his political leanings had anything to do with him shooting someone, I think it will come out that this guy is a left-wing nut-job. Talking about government mind control and brainwashing conspiracies, etc. Definetly fits in with how I look at most left-wingers. we'll find out for sure soon, I would guess.

Does it really matter? The point is this psycho needs to pay for his actions. And stop idiotically stereo-typing such a large group as "left-wingers" you look foolish.
 
The little girl died, and the Fed Judge...

I have to ask, in a scenario like this, can we skip straight to the lethal injection? The murderer was caught on the scence by a by-stander, there is no freaking question he did this act, and he's obviously crazy enough to be dangerous to society. If nothing else, it would cost too much to put him in a crazy house (which I'm sure his attorney is going to suggest).
Yep, no chance he'll be exonerated on down the line. Let's end him.
 
The guy is obviously a loon. While I don't think his political leanings had anything to do with him shooting someone, I think it will come out that this guy is a left-wing nut-job. Talking about government mind control and brainwashing conspiracies, etc. Definetly fits in with how I look at most left-wingers. we'll find out for sure soon, I would guess.

I very much doubt that this guy can be labeled as one party or the other. This:

Hello, and welcome my classified leak of information that's of the United States Military to the student body and you. Firstly, I want you to understand this from the start. Did you know grammar is double blind, listener? Secondly, if you want to understand the start of revelatory thoughts then listen to this video. I'll look at you mother ****in Anarchists who have a problem with them illegal illiterate pigs. :-D If you're a citizen in the United States as of now, then your constitution is the United States. You're a citizen in the United States as of now. Thus, your constitution is the United States. Laugh. I'll let you in on their little cruel joke that's genocidal. They're argument is appeal to force on their jurisdiction with lack of proof of evidence. Each subject is in question for the location! The police don't quite get paid correctly with them dirty front runners under section 10? Their country's alliances are able to make illegal trades under section 10. Eh! I'm a Nihilist, not someone who put who put trust in god! What is section 10 you ask? If you make a purchase then it's illegal under section 10 and amendment 1 of the United States constitution. You make a purchase. Therefore, it's illegal under section 10 and amendment 1 of the United States constitution. We need a drum roll for those front runners in the election; those illegal teachers, pigs, and politicians of yours are under illegal authority of their constitution. Those dirty pigs think they know the damn year. Thirdly, tell them mother ****ers to count from 0 to whenever they feel a threat to stop their count. We can all hope they add new numbers and letters to their count down. Did you run out of breath around the trillions, listener? Well, B.C.E is yet to start for Ad to begin! What does this mean for a citizen in any country? Those illegal military personal are able to sign into a country that they can't find with an impossible date! How did you trust your child with them fraud teachers and front runners, listener? Did you now know that the teachers, pigs, and front runners are treasonous! You shouldn't jump to conclusion with your education plan. The constitution as of now, which is in use by the current power pigs, aren't able to protect the bill of rights! Do you now have enough information to know the two wars are illegal! What is your date of time, listener? Fourthly, those applications that are with background checks break the United States constitution! What's your riot name? I'll catch you!

is insanity.
 
I suggest that focusing on the facts at this point is the essential activity. Drawing conclusions as to the cause or the consequences seem premature.

Edit: I don't always follow my own advice.
 
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The little girl died, and the Fed Judge...

I have to ask, in a scenario like this, can we skip straight to the lethal injection? The murderer was caught on the scence by a by-stander, there is no freaking question he did this act, and he's obviously crazy enough to be dangerous to society. If nothing else, it would cost too much to put him in a crazy house (which I'm sure his attorney is going to suggest).

I think that even in scenarios like this, there is value in following the proper legal procedures. I'm not very familiar with the standards for capacity to stand for trial, but it actually wouldn't surprise me if this guy is incapable.

As a side note, what what the federal judge doing there? That seems strange to me.

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UPDATE: It shouldn’t surprise any lawyers that the Judge was not “participating” in the Gabrielle Giffords supermarket meet-and-greet where the shooting took place. Instead, television reports say that Judge Roll happened to live a couple of blocks away from the supermarket. He decided to drop by to say hello to the Congresswoman.

http://abovethelaw.com/2011/01/fede...ng-victims-in-arizona-congresswoman-shooting/
 
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I think that even in scenarios like this, there is value in following the proper legal procedures. I'm not very familiar with the standards for capacity to stand for trial, but it actually wouldn't surprise me if this guy is incapable.

As a side note, what what the federal judge doing there? That seems strange to me.

If he is incapable to stand trial what happens to him? A mental institute?
 
I think that even in scenarios like this, there is value in following the proper legal procedures. I'm not very familiar with the standards for capacity to stand for trial, but it actually wouldn't surprise me if this guy is incapable.

As a side note, what what the federal judge doing there? That seems strange to me.
All that's requires is that he be competent to stand trial. That's different than insanity which is actually a defense at trial.
 
I suggest that focusing on the facts at this point is the essential activity. Drawing conclusions as to the cause or the consequences seem premature.

Edit: I don't always follow my own advice.

I think enough facts have been collected to suggest that this cat is a crazy mother ****er.
 
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