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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Those looking for a REASON for the shooting are not acting unreasonably, nor is it unreasonable to reject the militant language that has seeped into the political landscape and has intensified in recent years.

    I would offer that it is the lack of concern over the reason for the shooting that better reflects the attitudes associated with an unreasonable person and that not caring about the intensification of militant rhetoric does not indicate reason, but simply the avoidance of making a value judgement.

    Seems to me a reasonable person would say "enough is enough" in regards to the militant rhetoric rather than chastising those who reject it.
    I disagree. The more attention you give the militant rhetoric, the more validity it gets. Dismissal and mocking of it is what needs to happen. A reasonable person doesn't attend, seriously, to stupidity.
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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

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    I disagree. The more attention you give the militant rhetoric, the more validity it gets. Dismissal and mocking of it is what needs to happen. A reasonable person doesn't attend, seriously, to stupidity.
    44 - Jared Loughner's behavior recorded by college classmate in e-mails

    Now they have emails from a former classmate that pointed to this nut's problem.
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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Yeah, there must be nothing political about political assassinations.
    Context, Gardener. An insane person who assassinates someone for delusional reasons does not equate something political. Also, we are looking at personal responsibility here. There has been idiotic partisan rhetoric going on for ages. How an individual processes that is on them. Reasonable people recognize it is just idiotic rhetoric. Unreasonable people do not. Now, I'm not saying that the rhetoric is OK... it isn't. Nor am I saying that it doesn't factor in at all. However, in this particular case, I don't see it as the "smoking gun".
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Context, Gardener. An insane person who assassinates someone for delusional reasons does not equate something political. Also, we are looking at personal responsibility here. There has been idiotic partisan rhetoric going on for ages. How an individual processes that is on them. Reasonable people recognize it is just idiotic rhetoric. Unreasonable people do not. Now, I'm not saying that the rhetoric is OK... it isn't. Nor am I saying that it doesn't factor in at all. However, in this particular case, I don't see it as the "smoking gun".
    Read the link.
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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    More info on the shooter:

    Suspect Fixated on Giffords - WSJ.com





    People were talking about him in terms of being someone they thought might shoot up the school as long as a year ago:

    44 - Jared Loughner's behavior recorded by college classmate in e-mails

    Suspected Arizona gunman known for bizarre behavior - USATODAY.com

    Enlightening links. Painting the picture that seems to support this was (morbididly but) simply the act of deranged individual.

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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    Kind of makes me wonder if you would be less emotional were the child an ugly little creature.
    Gotta say it. Scummiest comment I've seen at DP in a long time. Folks... remember who said this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    44 - Jared Loughner's behavior recorded by college classmate in e-mails

    Now they have emails from a former classmate that pointed to this nut's problem.
    Only thing the emails pointed out was what we already know. He has been mentally ill for a bit. Just like the guy who killed people at that Virginia college, something should have been done about THAT. Politics had little or nothing to do with what this guy did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Read the link.
    I did. I stand by my position.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Gotta say it. Scummiest comment I've seen at DP in a long time. Folks... remember who said this.
    And it was made against what I said, in a post in which I was shedding tears trying to finish it. The only post on any forum in 15 years in which I clicked "submit" through tears in my eyes.

    DOL might have earned his way onto my ignore list. I don't think he deserves my time in reading anything he has further to say.

    I'll say it's safe to assume that if I would say what I truly think about him, I would be perma-banned. But then that let's him win. And I want to be the bigger man in this situation.
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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Gotta say it. Scummiest comment I've seen at DP in a long time. Folks... remember who said this.
    Really? Did you not see Chevydriver's post about how he's glad the lady got shot? Not to minimize DOL's comment, but Chevy's was the scummiest I had seen ever, anywhere.
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