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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

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    Anybody who would blame the state for what happened wouldn't be someone worth listening to.
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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I don't think the rhetoric is any worse now than it has been over the past 230 years. In 1804, Alexander Hamilton (former SECTRES) and Aaron Burr (the sitting VP), fought a dual and Hamilton was killed. Why? Because Hamilton had made the claim that Burr was, "A dangerous man, and one who ought not be trusted with the reins in government".

    We've had 4 presidents assissinated--Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley and Kennedy. We've had two presidents wounded in assissination attempts--Teddy Roosevelt and Reagan. There have been actual attempts--Jackson, Lincoln (1861), Franklin Roosevelt, Truman, Kennedy (1960), Nixon, Ford (twice), Bush Sr. and Clinton (three times).

    I think there have been 6 assissinations/assissination attempts upon congressmen.

    So, this hardly some kind of recent phenomenon. It would be the pinnacle of ignorance to blame this on anyone's political rhetoric. Anyone who believes that political rhetoric is the singular reason for these kinds of acts, should spend less time talking and more time soul searching.
    Really? So you feel the internet, and instant access to all the "good, bad and ugly" bears no part in in how information is spread and disseminated?

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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

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    Really? So you feel the internet, and instant access to all the "good, bad and ugly" bears no part in in how information is spread and disseminated?
    It doesn't matter. It's what someone does with that information that makes the difference.

    If a kook decides he's going to kill innocent people, do we really care what sources he used to justify his actions?

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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    It doesn't matter. It's what someone does with that information that makes the difference.

    If a kook decides he's going to kill innocent people, do we really care what sources he used to justify his actions?
    I largely agree with you. But much like yelling fire in a crowded theater, what is said can have an effect. I don't support censorship, but I also think much of our rhetoric deserves serious criticism and would love more responsible behavior from our political entertainers.

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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I have heard 12 people have been shot and 5 are dead including a child..........It sounds like a terrorist attack.............

    Now I have just heard that the Congresswoman is still alive at the hospital in critical condition...............
    You are correct Navy....it was just another right-wing terrorist
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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    You are correct Navy....it was just another right-wing terrorist
    how many 'right wingers' favorite book is the communist manifesto?

    that's not to say this guy was crazy because of liberals or socialists. he was just crazy. judging from his videos he hasn't had a rational thought in a long time. if any ideology is to blame, it's the ideology of 'the other guy is so bad you have to vote for me no matter what i say'. supporting the left or the right because of the evils of the other side is insane. both sides are right because both sides are insane. bigger government robs from the people, bigger corporations rob from the people. when those are the only two sides, eventually the people have nothing. when the people have nothing, they can't lose anymore and they get crazy.
    Democracy is two wolves and sheep voting on what's for dinner. Liberty is a well armed sheep willing to contest the vote.

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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyroh View Post
    how many 'right wingers' favorite book is the communist manifesto?
    I know at least one. Sadly. He's also a fan of Hitler. Hates liberals. A skin head here.

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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    You are correct Navy....it was just another right-wing terrorist
    Many mods have warned about using partisan rhetoric in this thread. You have been reported.

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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I largely agree with you. But much like yelling fire in a crowded theater, what is said can have an effect. I don't support censorship, but I also think much of our rhetoric deserves serious criticism and would love more responsible behavior from our political entertainers.
    Yes, but I detect a hint of "passing the buck" of responsibility away from the person pulling the trigger.

    I don't care what they saw, heard or read, if they shoot up a function like this, or any body anywhere, they are murderers. Nobody told them to murder. Quit trying to pass the buck.

    This is Jared's actions and Jareds only.

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