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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    The little girl died, and the Fed Judge...

    I have to ask, in a scenario like this, can we skip straight to the lethal injection? The murderer was caught on the scence by a by-stander, there is no freaking question he did this act, and he's obviously crazy enough to be dangerous to society. If nothing else, it would cost too much to put him in a crazy house (which I'm sure his attorney is going to suggest).
    I think that even in scenarios like this, there is value in following the proper legal procedures. I'm not very familiar with the standards for capacity to stand for trial, but it actually wouldn't surprise me if this guy is incapable.

    As a side note, what what the federal judge doing there? That seems strange to me.

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    UPDATE: It shouldn’t surprise any lawyers that the Judge was not “participating” in the Gabrielle Giffords supermarket meet-and-greet where the shooting took place. Instead, television reports say that Judge Roll happened to live a couple of blocks away from the supermarket. He decided to drop by to say hello to the Congresswoman.
    http://abovethelaw.com/2011/01/feder...oman-shooting/
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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    I think that even in scenarios like this, there is value in following the proper legal procedures. I'm not very familiar with the standards for capacity to stand for trial, but it actually wouldn't surprise me if this guy is incapable.

    As a side note, what what the federal judge doing there? That seems strange to me.
    If he is incapable to stand trial what happens to him? A mental institute?
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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    I think that even in scenarios like this, there is value in following the proper legal procedures. I'm not very familiar with the standards for capacity to stand for trial, but it actually wouldn't surprise me if this guy is incapable.

    As a side note, what what the federal judge doing there? That seems strange to me.
    All that's requires is that he be competent to stand trial. That's different than insanity which is actually a defense at trial.
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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    If he is incapable to stand trial what happens to him? A mental institute?
    Yes, until he's deemed competent, then trial.
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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    I suggest that focusing on the facts at this point is the essential activity. Drawing conclusions as to the cause or the consequences seem premature.

    Edit: I don't always follow my own advice.
    I think enough facts have been collected to suggest that this cat is a crazy mother ****er.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    The little girl died, and the Fed Judge...

    I have to ask, in a scenario like this, can we skip straight to the lethal injection? The murderer was caught on the scence by a by-stander, there is no freaking question he did this act, and he's obviously crazy enough to be dangerous to society. If nothing else, it would cost too much to put him in a crazy house (which I'm sure his attorney is going to suggest).
    Would you feel that way if Giffords was just an ordinary citizen?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    If he is incapable to stand trial what happens to him? A mental institute?
    Yes.

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    All that's requires is that he be competent to stand trial. That's different than insanity which is actually a defense at trial.
    I'm saying that it wouldn't surprise me if he's not competent to stand trial.
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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Would you feel that way if Giffords was just an ordinary citizen?
    Gifford isn't dead, she's alive. I'm pissed off about the little girl, and the 4 or 5 others, not to mention everything I've heard about this guy makes him look like he's the epitomy of a parasite on society.
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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Yes.



    I'm saying that it wouldn't surprise me if he's not competent to stand trial.
    He may not be, but compentency is a very low standard.
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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    The little girl died, and the Fed Judge...

    I have to ask, in a scenario like this, can we skip straight to the lethal injection? The murderer was caught on the scence by a by-stander, there is no freaking question he did this act, and he's obviously crazy enough to be dangerous to society. If nothing else, it would cost too much to put him in a crazy house (which I'm sure his attorney is going to suggest).
    Hell no, we are a nation of laws, and a judicial system... As bad as this crime is, the guy has a right to his day in court.


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