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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Sigh.

    There is a shooting. You here there are several dead. That group includes a judge and a congresswoman.

    I would RATHER hear that the officials had died, then civilians, because they at last understand there is an inherent risk in being who they are.

    Much like if you heard there was a NASCAR wreck where the car went into the stands and there was a death. I'd rather it be the driver, who knew the risk, then it be a person in the stands. Not a perfect analogy because obvious one is an evil act the other is an accident.

    You are in a tizzy the wrong way, for the wrong reasons. Where did I say it was an acceptable risk?

    I said they understand there is an inherent risk, being a public official, that there is at least some level of threat against you.
    You could save yourself a hell of a lot of problems by defining your "public official" comment. All you are doing now is pretty much promoting the same paranoid rantings of this terrorist in Tuscon by painting people on the public payroll as fair game by saying that you would rather have them dead than someone not on the public payroll...
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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Is that his favorite video or is that him?
    It's either him or someone he personally knows, as in a friend. No other options really.
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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    In other words you wont answer my question? I am not looking for any angle but for a clarification to your comments.

    If you mean that elected officials have to accept a risk, then I would agree somewhat. The US President is always at risk.. but a local politician... no way.

    However if you meant that all people on the government payroll .. then we have a problem.

    So which is it?
    I didn't answer it because everyone aside you and Catz figured it out and got my point. If you haven't figured it out that you are just searching for a"problem" to rant about, that's on you.

    Stick to the topic and stop harassing me with irrelevancies.
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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    You could save yourself a hell of a lot of problems by defining your "public official" comment. All you are doing now is pretty much promoting the same paranoid rantings of this terrorist in Tuscon by painting people on the public payroll as fair game by saying that you would rather have them dead than someone not on the public payroll...
    That's not at all what he said.
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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

    Sorry didn't see the Not Redress, edited for you.
    Last edited by Renae; 01-08-11 at 06:18 PM.
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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

    I've posted this debate in a separate thread so that we can stop diverting the intent of this one (and so you can avoid getting threadbanned, Vicchio and Pete).

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/genera...post1059205308

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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

    Googling the passage written by the killer from the removed video I've mentioned above, I've reached this myspace account of this 22 years old girl from Tucson:

    Sara Due (Sara

    No idea why, but she's also studied in Mountain View Highschool, like the killer and the other guy I've mentioned.
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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    I didn't answer it because everyone aside you and Catz figured it out and got my point. If you haven't figured it out that you are just searching for a"problem" to rant about, that's on you.

    Stick to the topic and stop harassing me with irrelevancies.
    Most people know it is not unusual for elected officials to receive death threats etc. Gifford was no exception. She'd had her office vandalized etc. She lives in AZ and supports securing the border. I heard that she was always concerned about her safety but even more the safety of her staff. I understood perfectly what you meant.
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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

    This is horrible HORRIBLE act! What a beautiful woman. Ive read nothing but good things about her.
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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

    "She's in critical condition," Dr. Peter Rhee told a news conference at the hospital where Giffords had surgery. "The neurosurgeons have finished operating on her and I can tell you that in the current time period I am very optimistic about recovery... she was following commands.
    Congresswoman Giffords wounded, six killed in shooting | Reuters

    That's great to see.
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