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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

    He claims in one video to be "a military recruit at MEPS in Phoenix".
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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    Just from watching his youtube video, it appears he thought he would die.
    Too bad we couldn't accommodate that.
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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

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    Too bad we couldn't accommodate that.
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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Okay, I was afraid this would be taken wrong.

    There is a shooting, like now. Number of dead, and some Gov't officials also shot.

    I'd RATHER the dead be the Gov't officials, because at least knew and accepted a level of inherent risk, then it be all civilians.

    Does that clear it up?

    think of it like... a NASCAR wreck, and the car hits the stand. You hear there is a death, I would hope that it was driver because HE knew the risk... see what I am saying?
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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

    A cousin of mine was shot in the head by some guy trying to kill his ex. Instead he hit my cousin. She was blinded by it and had a lot of facial reconstruction done to repair the damage. (the guy used a rifle not a handgun)
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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    He claims in one video to be "a military recruit at MEPS in Phoenix".
    Means he hadn't even gone through screening, just signed some paperwork.
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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
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    I would do it too. No question in my mind.
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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

    Googling the passage he has written in the video leads to many pages.

    This myspace page for example:

    Joe Iosue (♠Yo-sway&spades on Myspace

    A 21 years old from Tucson, Yo-sway is the name, sharing the same video in the 3rd of October.
    ****ing creepy.
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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

    This should be the model we follow in cases like this

    Assassination attempt

    On February 15, 1933, Roosevelt was giving an impromptu speech from the back of an open car in the Bayfront Park area of Miami, Florida, where Zangara was living, working the occasional odd job, and living off his savings. Zangara joined the crowd, armed with a .32-caliber pistol he had bought at a local pawn shop. However, being only five feet tall, he was unable to see over other people, and had to stand on a wobbly folding metal chair, peering over the hat of Lillian Cross to get a clear aim at his target.[3] After the first shot, Cross and others grabbed his arm, and he fired four more shots wildly. He missed the president-elect, but five other people were hit, including Chicago mayor Anton Cermak, who was standing on the running board of the car next to Roosevelt. En route to the hospital, Cermak had allegedly told FDR, "I'm glad it was me and not you, Mr. President", words now inscribed on a plaque in Bayfront Park.
    [edit]Aftermath

    In the Dade County Courthouse jail, Zangara confessed and stated: "I have the gun in my hand. I kill kings and presidents first and next all capitalists." He pleaded guilty to four counts of attempted murder and was sentenced to 80 years in prison. As he was led out of the courtroom, Zangara told the judge: "Four times 20 is 80. Oh, judge, don't be stingy. Give me a hundred years." The judge, aware that Cermak might not survive his wounds, replied: "Maybe there will be more later."
    Cermak died of peritonitis 19 days later, on March 6, 1933, two days after Roosevelt's inauguration. Zangara was promptly indicted for first-degree murder in Cermak's death. Because Zangara had intended to commit murder, it was irrelevant that his intended target was not the man he ultimately killed.
    Zangara pleaded guilty to the additional murder charge, and was sentenced to die. Zangara said after hearing his sentence: "You give me electric chair. I no afraid of that chair! You one of capitalists. You is crook man too. Put me in electric chair. I no care!"[4] Under Florida law, a convicted murderer could not share cell space with another prisoner before his execution, but another convicted murderer was already awaiting execution at Raiford. Zangara's sentence required prison officials to expand their waiting area, and the "death cell" became "Death Row".
    [edit]Execution

    On March 20, 1933, after spending only 10 days on Death Row, Zangara was executed in Old Sparky, the electric chair at Florida State Penitentiary in Raiford, Florida. Zangara became enraged when he learned no newsreel cameras would be filming his final moments. Zangara's final statement was "Viva Italia! Goodbye to all poor peoples everywhere! [...] Push the button!" [5]
    Five weeks between the shooting and the execution.

    Nor five months.
    Not five years.
    Five weeks.
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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

    Normally I would say that a trial that convicts and incarcerates an individual is a more harsh punishment for most people. The idea that your actions are unacceptable by society can be traumatic. But this guy seems to believe he's above it all and so he'd view society's condemnation as beneath him.
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