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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

    "In conclusion, reading the second United States Constitution, I can't trust the current government because of the ratifications: The government is implying mind control and brainwash on the people by controlling grammar."

    From his YouTube channel.
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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

    Federal Judge John McCarthy Roll was among those killed.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McCarthy_Roll

    I don't know how it could be argued that it's better that it was him than that of a "normal person."
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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    According to ABC, this is the guy's youtube channel:

    YouTube Channel of Shooter Jared Laughner - World News

    http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitu.../1/nHoaZaLbqB4

    The guy seems to be one of the more insane people I've ever encountered.
    Well he's favorited a video by this guy:

    http://www.youtube.com/user/Starhitshnaz

    Which has only one video, that has a very low amount of viewers (and now everyone is there due to the incident, take in count).
    This means it's either the same person or they share their lunacy.

    ****ing creep nonetheless.
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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

    Jared Lee Loughner

    And this:

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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    No, I really don't understand what you mean, and would appreciate it if you explain it. As I see it, it's much much worse if someone gets killed who is a congresswoman or a judge, and their occupation had anything to do with it. One fear I have for this country is that gradually over time, the idea that it's ok to use violence to achieve political change will become an acceptable idea, at least in enough people to matter. That's why I raise such a fuss when people talk about "second amendment solutions" or publish maps with crosshairs. There's only a few things that really make sure we don't slide and degenerate into being another third world failure as a country. Our comparative low rate of corruption and a strong industry are big parts of it, but one of the biggest is how strong our democratic tradition is. Even countries in Europe, most of the rest of the Democratic world, don't have nearly the smooth sailing we do as far as keeping a democratic form of government.

    You know there's people out there of whatever beliefs that see this and go "Oh, Giffords didn't fit into my ideology. Good riddance." If this encourages any of them to take out another elected leader, well I'll let you think of where that road leads.
    Okay, I was afraid this would be taken wrong.

    There is a shooting, like now. Number of dead, and some Gov't officials also shot.

    I'd RATHER the dead be the Gov't officials, because at least knew and accepted a level of inherent risk, then it be all civilians.

    Does that clear it up?

    think of it like... a NASCAR wreck, and the car hits the stand. You hear there is a death, I would hope that it was driver because HE knew the risk... see what I am saying?
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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

    A good example of why I support the death penalty without reservation.
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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

    You never know about head shots with handguns. If they're non-contact, sometimes they glance off the skullbone, skitter around under the skin, and exit far from the entry wound without penetrating the brain. This goes even for larger calibers.

    OTOH a contact shot is usually fatal, as the muzzle blast is almost as bad as the bullet.

    Guess we'll see.

    This is horrible, absolutely horrible. The shooter sounds like an absolute nutbag of the first order. Glad he's in custody.

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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

    Hope all recover.

    I want to know all we can find out about the political beliefs and motivations of this shooter.

    The model here should be the 1933 shooting of Mayor Anton Cermak of Chicago and the justice handed out in that case.
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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

    Just from watching his youtube video, it appears he thought he would die.
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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Holy **** some of this stuff is nuts:



    From a video he posted 3 weeks ago.
    Yeah, I just got done watching those videos. That is the work of a seriously disturbed person.
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