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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

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    Was it? The guy on CNN said 9 months, maybe he misspoke.
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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    There have been some political insinuations in this thread, and I would like to address them.

    If this was politically motivated, then the PERSON, not the POLITICAL affiliation should be blamed. There are nuts on both sides of the aisle. Being a Ron Paul supporter in 2008, I know this first hand. I saw nutters, KKK'ers, Neo Nazis, and others, at Ron Paul rallies, despite the fact that Ron Paul himself harshly condemned them. Democrats also have their share of nutters. I remember election day in 2001, when President Bush's car was pelted with eggs, and I also remember some protests, while Bush was in office, that turned very violent.

    If this turns out to be the handiwork of a political nutter, then the last thing we should do is argue about his motivations. We would only be empowering other nutters by discussing the political aspect of this act. It would be much better to execute the scum bag, and forget about him.

    So, what I am saying is that, if this is a political nutter, then let's discuss this, not from angle of "he is a so and so <insert political lean here>", but from the angle that he is a criminal who needs to have justice meted out to him. For that is what he is, no matter what political affiliation he is. This is America, and he most certainly is not American, but a man who betrayed our founding fathers. At this time, let us all, Democrat and Republican alike, come together and mourn a tragedy, and also pray for the family of Gabrielle Giffords. As for the shooter, fhugettabotit.
    Absolutely. No reasonable person of any political persuasion would think this kind of action is appropriate. The guy that did this is a truly disturbed individual, and the best thing we can do is execute him and move on. It's incredibly sad that a child was killed, and hopefully the others that were shot will pull through.
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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

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    Was it? The guy on CNN said 9 months, maybe he misspoke.
    The doctor said 9yr old. And he did say he was optimistic about Gabrielle
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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

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    Hopefully, I doubt anyone getting shot in the brain could survive for any period of time.
    Actually, a small calibur gun would do minimal damage. People survive brain penetrations all the time.
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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

    According to ABC, this is the guy's youtube channel:

    YouTube Channel of Shooter Jared Laughner - World News

    http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitu.../1/nHoaZaLbqB4

    The guy seems to be one of the more insane people I've ever encountered.
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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    According to ABC, this is the guy's youtube channel:

    YouTube Channel of Shooter Jared Laughner - World News

    http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitu.../1/nHoaZaLbqB4

    The guy seems to be one of the more insane people I've ever encountered.
    From what I'm hearing he's a lunatic. Considering how conservative the Congresswoman is, his commentary (if what I'm hearing is accurate) leans AR RIGHT makes this not a political event, but more like the shooting of John Lennon. One ****ED UP Mofo with issues.
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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

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    2nd person arrested
    Good to hear. Hope they get all the SOBs and put them on trial
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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    One can hope, sadly Fox news is being emphatic that he was DOA at the scene and it's been confirmed.

    I know this sounds terrible, but better he then an average citizen. I hope people understand my meaning in saying that.
    No, I really don't understand what you mean, and would appreciate it if you explain it. As I see it, it's much much worse if someone gets killed who is a congresswoman or a judge, and their occupation had anything to do with it. One fear I have for this country is that gradually over time, the idea that it's ok to use violence to achieve political change will become an acceptable idea, at least in enough people to matter. That's why I raise such a fuss when people talk about "second amendment solutions" or publish maps with crosshairs. There's only a few things that really make sure we don't slide and degenerate into being another third world failure as a country. Our comparative low rate of corruption and a strong industry are big parts of it, but one of the biggest is how strong our democratic tradition is. Even countries in Europe, most of the rest of the Democratic world, don't have nearly the smooth sailing we do as far as keeping a democratic form of government.

    You know there's people out there of whatever beliefs that see this and go "Oh, Giffords didn't fit into my ideology. Good riddance." If this encourages any of them to take out another elected leader, well I'll let you think of where that road leads.
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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

    I just looked at his YouTube channel, and he lists "The Communist Manifesto" and "Mein Kampf" as 2 of his favorite books... This guy has some serious problems.

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    Re: Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot In Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    According to ABC, this is the guy's youtube channel:

    YouTube Channel of Shooter Jared Laughner - World News

    http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitu.../1/nHoaZaLbqB4

    The guy seems to be one of the more insane people I've ever encountered.
    Holy **** some of this stuff is nuts:

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