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Health care repeal will cost $230 billion

The Giant Noodle

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Washington (CNN) -- Legislation being pushed by House Republicans to repeal President Barack Obama's health care overhaul will add $230 billion to the federal debt by 2021, according to an analysis released Thursday by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office.
Democrats immediately pounced on the report, arguing, among other things, that it undermines the new GOP House majority's emphasis on fiscal responsibility.
"Not only would repeal of health care reform add to our deficit, it would dump more than 30 million Americans from coverage who will be protected by our new health care reform act," said Sen. Richard Durbin, D-Illinois.
"So more than 50 million Americans won't have the protection of health insurance. That is a personal family tragedy even beyond our discussion of the deficit."


Analysis: Health care repeal will cost $230 billion - CNN.com
 
I'm sort of with the Republicans on this one. I want it repealed. Unlike the Republicans I'd replace it with something that isn't the biggest joke of the millennium so far... I don't think I could come up with a more laughable bill if I tried.

For a Communist Obama certainly keeps a good disguise up. Seems like it would be in the interests of a Communist to... you know... do something remotely communistic... Instead he didn't pass universal healthcare (which most, if not all other developed nations have, so I suppose they're all super communists, even their conservative parties increase health spending lol), he didn't pass a public option (which to a communist would be only the most unacceptably ridiculous compromise ever), he didn't even properly aim to fix up the status quo a little, it was all rhetoric.

Regardless of what I think on the subject, it WILL be repealed. And it will be bipartisan. Just watch.
 
One of Obama's selling points for the bill is that it would save us those $230 billion. But they used some very fuzzy math to come up with that figure. This healthcare bill and any healthcare bill that we come up with to cover all those people that the government claims are uninsured is going to cost us a lot of money. And, just because we repeal this healthcare bill, which is horrendous in my opinion, doesn't mean we can't come up with another that will either save us money or at least not cost us as much money.

Isn't great how the media frames things. Like as soon as the bill is repealed $230 billion will disappear from the treasury. Yeah, I know they don't say it like that but you know there are people who will assume it.
 
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I say repeal it goodo.. Toot Sweet.. :)


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Either way this goes it is going to increase the deficit. More important here, I feel, is how the Republicans have already began to go back on campaign promises. The GOP promised to create a more open legislative process and criticized the Democrats for not allowing amendments and debate, yet right out the gate they are allowing no such actions to the repeal vote. Secondly, Republicans are wanting to vote to repeal the Healthcare Bill wholesale because by breaking the bill up item by item, they would be forcing their members to vote against pieces of the bill that Americans want to keep. This would ultimately lead to a backlash against the GOP Congressional leadership.
 
I dont care how much it will cost, repeal the damm thing. Let me ask you a question Noodle do you honestly wanna pay for health care for those who support warmongering, bloodthirsty, pro-federal reserve, and thieving politicians? I sure as hell dont.
 
I'm sort of with the Republicans on this one. I want it repealed. Unlike the Republicans I'd replace it with something that isn't the biggest joke of the millennium so far... I don't think I could come up with a more laughable bill if I tried.

For a Communist Obama certainly keeps a good disguise up. Seems like it would be in the interests of a Communist to... you know... do something remotely communistic... Instead he didn't pass universal healthcare (which most, if not all other developed nations have, so I suppose they're all super communists, even their conservative parties increase health spending lol), he didn't pass a public option (which to a communist would be only the most unacceptably ridiculous compromise ever), he didn't even properly aim to fix up the status quo a little, it was all rhetoric.

Regardless of what I think on the subject, it WILL be repealed. And it will be bipartisan. Just watch.

This bill wasn't supposed to fix healthcare. It's more about new tax laws than fixing healthcare.

Perssonally, I think that 230 billion is a bargain, compared to the damage this bill is going to do to the country.
 
americans know that adding THIRTY MILLION new enrollees to already underfunded m&m does not SAVE anyone 230 billion dollars

that's why they voted the way they did on tsunami tuesday

seeya on the house floor, fellas
 
I'd be much more open to the idea of repeal if the republicans were offering anything in the way of meaningful healthcare reform. But they aren't. All they are proposing is "NO!"
 
I'd be much more open to the idea of repeal if the republicans were offering anything in the way of meaningful healthcare reform. But they aren't. All they are proposing is "NO!"

Where do you get your opinion that the Republicans haven't offered an alternative? Paul Ryan has a proposal that is easy to find. Making blanket statements like yours doesn't help your credibility.
 
I dont care how much it will cost, repeal the damm thing. Let me ask you a question Noodle do you honestly wanna pay for health care for those who support warmongering, bloodthirsty, pro-federal reserve, and thieving politicians? I sure as hell dont.

repealing it doesn't stop us from paying for anyone. We have been paying for others, the irresponsible anf will continue to with the bill repealled.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/...-houses-reading-of-the-constitution-video.php
 
I'd be much more open to the idea of repeal if the republicans were offering anything in the way of meaningful healthcare reform. But they aren't. All they are proposing is "NO!"

I thought medicaid and medicare was supposed the be the neatest thing since sliced bread.

How about we fix what's already in place vice reinventing the wheel?
 
This is NOT going to happen and the House Republicans are breaking their own rules by bringing the bill to a vote without debate. This is nothing more than an attempt to appease the Teabagger folks.

The debate hass already taken place. The American people have spoken and they don't want this bill. The Republicans are serving the will of the people.
 
This is NOT going to happen and the House Republicans are breaking their own rules by bringing the bill to a vote without debate. This is nothing more than an attempt to appease the Teabagger folks.

It's going to happen. First the House will make a symbolic repeal. Then they will start to defund the mess. In 2 years, when the Senate changes hands, and Obama is back in Chicago planning his library....

It will get repealed.
 
I thought medicaid and medicare was supposed the be the neatest thing since sliced bread.

How about we fix what's already in place vice reinventing the wheel?

I am not convinced that many of those that support this Administration and continue to believe what they are told are capable of understanding actual facts. Medicare and SS are funded by FICA taxes, NOT FEDERAL INCOME TAXES! Medicare and SS were put on budget by LBJ in the 60's because more money was coming in than going out and he wanted that money to fund the Vietnam War and the Great Society. We are paying the price today for that irresponsibility. Medicare and SS was never intended to be on budget meaning that excesses can by used for whatever the Congress and the President want.

Medicare and SS are a single payer system, both are facing trillions in debt because of fiscal irresponsibility yet liberals want to compound that problem with a national healthcare program based upon a single payer system. Then they point to bogus numbers from the CBO that were created by bogus assumptions given them by the same Congress that now points to those bogus numbers. This is pure entertainment watching liberals dig their hole deeper and deeper.
 
I thought medicaid and medicare was supposed the be the neatest thing since sliced bread.

How about we fix what's already in place vice reinventing the wheel?

To fix that, you have to move to do the larger job those things are doing now. It would be best handled with a univerisal payor. As that won't happen any time soon, the next best thing is the peicemeal approach, best with a public option, and what this present bill attempts to do, rather poorly without the tpublic option.
 
To fix that, you have to move to do the larger job those things are doing now. It would be best handled with a univerisal payor. As that won't happen any time soon, the next best thing is the peicemeal approach, best with a public option, and what this present bill attempts to do, rather poorly without the tpublic option.

Still waiting for anyone promoting a single payer system to cite an example of a successful single payer system that cost what it was projected to cost and is run effeciently? How about it Boo?
 
I am not convinced that many of those that support this Administration and continue to believe what they are told are capable of understanding actual facts. Medicare and SS are funded by FICA taxes, NOT FEDERAL INCOME TAXES! Medicare and SS were put on budget by LBJ in the 60's because more money was coming in than going out and he wanted that money to fund the Vietnam War and the Great Society. We are paying the price today for that irresponsibility. Medicare and SS was never intended to be on budget meaning that excesses can by used for whatever the Congress and the President want.

Medicare and SS are a single payer system, both are facing trillions in debt because of fiscal irresponsibility yet liberals want to compound that problem with a national healthcare program based upon a single payer system. Then they point to bogus numbers from the CBO that were created by bogus assumptions given them by the same Congress that now points to those bogus numbers. This is pure entertainment watching liberals dig their hole deeper and deeper.

I think if they actually read the bill instead of taking Obama's word for it, they would probably want it repealed.
 
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