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    Re: Health care repeal will cost $230 billion

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    Have READ the bill? Have ANY of the conservative read the bill? Because it people dont understand it! HERE IS THE BILL:
    http://docs.house.gov/rules/health/111_ahcaa.pdf
    Thanks, now the question is have you read the 1990 page bill you just posted. You seem to have a lot of passion for this bill and the question is why? Why are you buying the CBO numbers 10 years out and what happens if you and the CBO projections are wrong? Do you think it is the role of the Federal Govt. to mandate what someone else purchases? Do you think it is the role of the Federal Govt. to take on personal responsibility issues. You claim to be a libertarian, where in the libertarian platform does it support Govt. doing what this bill does?

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    Re: Health care repeal will cost $230 billion

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    Also I DONT think this is something that Americans want to repeal.
    It's a good thing we have companies that perform polling - Otherwise we'd all have to rely on what you happen to "think".

    Independents, 43-39 want it repealed. A higher percentage of republicans want it repealed then democrats that don't.

    In U.S., 46% Favor, 40% Oppose Repealing Healthcare Law

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    Re: Health care repeal will cost $230 billion

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Name another service every man wonman and child uses. You still don't see the point. The only reason all are required is becase all use it. If all had no choice but to drive, all would be required to purchase auto insurance. But regardless, government still removed the choice of someone to drive without insurance. You can't deny that. And you may continue to ignore the point, but it doesn't help your case any.
    Hmm, how about water, sewer service, food, housing, electricity, gas..... Do I need to go on ?? Each of these is required by everyone, but the federal government does not mandate we buy any of them from private companies.

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    Re: Health care repeal will cost $230 billion

    You don't want the Libs to take a stranglehold, but...it's for our own good. Is that it?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Health care repeal will cost $230 billion

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Really? So drug abuse, obesity, smoking, and drinking had no affect? Life expectancy in this country has increased every year. You really think that liberals give a damn about people living longer? They want the revenue and the power and that i what it is all about. Healthcare is a personal responsibility not a Federal Responsibility. Now if you want to pay for my healthcare, send me a check. Thanks.
    Duh. Sure those things have an effect - a fatal effect when combined with no medical care.
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    Re: Health care repeal will cost $230 billion

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Hmm, how about water, sewer service, food, housing, electricity, gas..... Do I need to go on ?? Each of these is required by everyone, but the federal government does not mandate we buy any of them from private companies.
    seems to me, however, that at various times, various governments have tried to interfere with all of these industries based on Boo's logic that the Government must make sure that they are available to all.


    how did those efforts work out, i wonder?

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    Re: Health care repeal will cost $230 billion

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Duh. Sure those things have an effect - a fatal effect when combined with no medical care.
    Medical care is available millions CHOOSE not to purchase it. Millions more are illegals getting healthcare in the ER's. We don't need this monstrosity for those that cannot afford to purchase their own health insurance.

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    Re: Health care repeal will cost $230 billion

    indeed. if you are a 23 year old whose combined medical expenses over the course of a year come to $600, why in the world would you want to pay $5,000 for health insurance, or $8,000 for Obamacare 'exchange' insurance?

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    Re: Health care repeal will cost $230 billion

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Medical care is available millions CHOOSE not to purchase it. Millions more are illegals getting healthcare in the ER's. We don't need this monstrosity for those that cannot afford to purchase their own health insurance.
    Are you so intellectually without a clue that you don't get it that tens of millions cannot AFFORD to purchase private medical insurance?

    Are you so intellectually without a clue that you would rather people get rushed to the ER in life threatening conditions which cost a whole lot more than simple early treatment would have cost?

    You and many on the far right here get your impressions of society from sources that have nothing to do with the day to day reality of millions of peoples lives.
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