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    Re: Health care repeal will cost $230 billion

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Other than food, shelter, clothing and water, everyone will need medical care at some time in their lives. But we don't all need auto insurance because not everyone drives an automobile. And even if they did drive and have valid driver's license, not everyone who does drive are the actual owner (or co-owner) of the vehicle they operate. Therefore, we agree in this regard: It is the States who mandate the requirement that each of its residents who own a motorized vehicle must insure that vehicle in case of accidental damage to property or injury to one's person, passengers or lose of life due to operating said motor vehicle.

    I've stated before that I believe the individual health insurance mandate should also be at the State level, but I also understand the need for all Americans to have health insurance. Therefore, other than the mandate, do you know of any other way to ensure all Americans are, in fact, insured?
    I don't believe the government has the right to require all of its citizens to have health insurance, and it appears that at least two judges agree with me.

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    Re: Health care repeal will cost $230 billion

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Read the posts prior, I posted the link.
    Must have been sometime ago, for someone else. Try reposting it.

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    Re: Health care repeal will cost $230 billion

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Who will never requrie health care? Only those who will need health care are required to purchase health care. Exactly the same.

    No sidestep. Until you see the point, there is no question there to answer. health care is something that every single person needs. No one choses not to receive health care at some level. So, you miss the point with this line of argumentation.
    Name another service or product that the federal government requires every man, woman, and child in the country to buy from a private company ...

    I'll still be waiting............

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    Re: Health care repeal will cost $230 billion

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I got an idea: pass a bill mandating that people get out, get a job and buy their own health insurance.
    Isn't that what the mandate's all about? People who can afford to buy health insurance should acquire it?

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    Re: Health care repeal will cost $230 billion

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Isn't that what the mandate's all about? People who can afford to buy health insurance should acquire it?
    People who are able to work, should be mandated to go to work. Then, they can only blame themselves for not having insurance and stop insisting that I pay for it, for them.
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    Re: Health care repeal will cost $230 billion

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Name another service or product that the federal government requires every man, woman, and child in the country to buy from a private company ...

    I'll still be waiting............
    Name another service every man wonman and child uses. You still don't see the point. The only reason all are required is becase all use it. If all had no choice but to drive, all would be required to purchase auto insurance. But regardless, government still removed the choice of someone to drive without insurance. You can't deny that. And you may continue to ignore the point, but it doesn't help your case any.

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    Re: Health care repeal will cost $230 billion

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Which were going up before reform.
    but obama promised to lower premiums, remember?

    indeed, it was his entire raison d'etre

    Citing health overhaul, AARP hikes employee costs - Yahoo! News

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    Re: Health care repeal will cost $230 billion

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    The Congressional Budget Office, in an email to Capitol Hill staffers obtained by the Spectator, has said that repealing the national health care law would reduce net spending by $540 billion in the ten year period from 2012 through 2021. That number represents the cost of the new provisions, minus Medicare cuts. Repealing the bill would also eliminate $770 billion in taxes. It's the tax hikes in the health care law (along with the Medicare cuts) which accounts for the $230 billion in deficit reduction.

    The American Spectator : AmSpecBlog : BREAKING: CBO Says Repealing ObamaCare Would Reduce Net Spending by $540 Billion
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Health care repeal will cost $230 billion

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Must have been sometime ago, for someone else. Try reposting it.
    Under the headline, "Construction Stops at Physician Hospitals," Politico reports today that "Physician Hospitals of America says that construction had to stop at 45 hospitals nationwide or they would not be able to bill Medicare for treatments." Stopping construction at doctor-owned hospitals might not seem like the best way to boost the economy or to promote greater access and choice in health care, but that exactly what Obamacare is doing.

    To get the full story do your own research.

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    Re: Health care repeal will cost $230 billion

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    but obama promised to lower premiums, remember?

    indeed, it was his entire raison d'etre

    Citing health overhaul, AARP hikes employee costs - Yahoo! News
    he would have to cntrol the industy to do that.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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