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    Re: Health care repeal will cost $230 billion

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    2000 pages are not alotted to this issue. It is only a few paragraphs, tops. And congress, not the president, seems to disagree with you. So, explain more. And please be factually accurate.
    Actually, Congress does agree with me.
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    Re: Health care repeal will cost $230 billion

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    The government is not in any running health care.
    Really? Then I guess the 2,000 + pages of the bill was just a waste of perfectly good trees then.

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    Re: Health care repeal will cost $230 billion

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Insurance companies have to raise rates, because of mandates placed on them by Obamacare.

    What about the unemployment rate? Since healthcare is going to double, employers aren't going to able to afford more employees.
    They were raising rates before mandates. What was the excuse then?

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Health care repeal will cost $230 billion

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What is happening in Europe is quite telling. If socialized medicine was so great why are European countries dismantling it.

    A Tale of Two Continents - Health Care Cost Monitor
    The author you use here, perhaps you should know more about:
    Richard Saltman - European Healthcare System Expert

    All of which is to say that Saltman is an admirer, and defender, of tax-funded public health care systems as they exist in Canada and much of Europe. But not an uncritical one. In fact, he scoffs at what he calls health care Chicken Littles who "as soon as there is any entrepreneurial behaviour at all in the public sector, or any link to the private sector, start screaming, 'The sky is falling, the sky is falling.' That's just pathetic."

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    Re: Health care repeal will cost $230 billion

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    The federal government has always expanded and will continue to do so. Name me one time in history where any party has shrunken the influence of the federal government.
    Executive Branch Employment Since 1940

    Total... not just civilian.

    1943-1944 federal employment went down
    1946-1950 federal employment went down
    1951-1952 federal employment went down
    1952-1959 federal employment went down
    1968-1969 federal employment went down
    1978-1979 federal employment went down
    1980-1989 federal employment went down
    1993-2007 federal employment went down

    The size of the federal workforce has never been higher than it is now under Obama. More gubmint... more gubmint!!!!!!!!!
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    Re: Health care repeal will cost $230 billion

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    I can answer that for him.... NO, he doesn't get the news in Louisville, at least not if he reads the local newspapers.
    I avoid locals like the plague!

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    Re: Health care repeal will cost $230 billion

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    The government is not in any running health care.
    The government is mandating that we purchase health insurance. I call that, "runnning health care".
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Health care repeal will cost $230 billion

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Really? Then I guess the 2,000 + pages of the bill was just a waste of perfectly good trees then.
    It is not running health care. It doesn't hire doctors, run hospitals, or sell supplies. The bill could be tree trillion pages long, and if it did no more than this does, it would not be running health care. You can change facts by counting pages.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Health care repeal will cost $230 billion

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The government is mandating that we purchase health insurance. I call that, "runnning health care".
    That is not running health care any more than mandatory auto insurance is running the auto industry.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Health care repeal will cost $230 billion

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    They were raising rates before mandates. What was the excuse then?
    Now rates are going to double. Wanna know the reason?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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