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    Re: Health care repeal will cost $230 billion

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I certainly there was a lack of leadership locally, at the state level and the federal level. But that doesn't mean there was enough help.

    Katrina poses key test for stretched National Guard / The Christian Science Monitor - CSMonitor.com
    Not surprising that someone who supports massive control of 1/6 of the U.S. Economy would also believe in Federal Intervention into state responsibilities. What gives the Federal Govt. the right to go into any state without the officials of that state requesting Federal Assistance? Did Blanco and Nagin request Federal assistance in New Orleans? Interesting that someone who doesn't live in the area is such an expert on what actually happened in New Orleans. Seems that the people of La. know where the blame lies and showed that during the last election.

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    Re: Health care repeal will cost $230 billion

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    There are over 450,000 members of the National Guard, yet only around 15,000 in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    You tell me if enough are still in the U.S. to protect the homeland.
    If it is not, then we likely don't need all that we have in the National Guard. I did link an article discussing it above.

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    Re: Health care repeal will cost $230 billion

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    I think the bill needs to be voted on line by line. Though many say that 3/4's want the bill repealed, a clear majority favor most of the benefits given by the bill. How many people you know are against being able to insure their kids through college or not being rejected for coverage because of a pre-existing condition?
    Not many. But many do suffer from a disconnect. They provisions like the ones you mention, but oppose any possible way to make sure it happens. this disconnect seems very pervasive.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Health care repeal will cost $230 billion

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I certainly there was a lack of leadership locally, at the state level and the federal level. But that doesn't mean there was enough help.

    Katrina poses key test for stretched National Guard / The Christian Science Monitor - CSMonitor.com
    And not one word in the story actually claiming that the National Guard is stretched beyond its limits.

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    Re: Health care repeal will cost $230 billion

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    . this disconnect seems very pervasive.
    Were you looking in a mirror when you typed this ??

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    Re: Health care repeal will cost $230 billion

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    And not one word in the story actually claiming that the National Guard is stretched beyond its limits.
    Wasn't it's single purpose, but if you want a source that says exactly that, let me give you the first few of a search:

    WASHINGTON -- The deployment of nearly 50,000 National Guard troops from 50 states as part of the Hurricane Katrina relief effort has exposed debilitating equipment shortages in a force already stretched thin by three years of deployments in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    Lt. Gen. Steven Blum, head of the National Guard, said in an interview that the needs of Guard units overseas have left troops at home without modern communications and night vision equipment, as well as the vehicles necessary for Guard troops to traverse neighborhoods flooded in the wake of Katrina.

    Guard units stretched thin

    AP) The National Guard is stretched so thin by simultaneous assignments in Iraq and the hurricane-ravaged Gulf Coast that leaders in statehouses and Congress say it is time to reconsider how the force is used.

    National Guard Stretched Thin - CBS News

    Army National Guard units that'd already served the maximum time on active duty, in combat, are being told that the rules have changed, and they're again being called back for Iraq service.

    It doesn't matter that those Guard units were ordered to leave virtually all of their equipment in Iraq and have had none of it replaced so that they might actually train for the eventuality that has befallen them. Nor does it matter that there may not be equipment and vehicles waiting for them in Iraq when they get there.

    An Army Stretched Thin

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Health care repeal will cost $230 billion

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Were you looking in a mirror when you typed this ??
    What troubles you about the bill,really what do fear will happen?

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    Re: Health care repeal will cost $230 billion

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Were you looking in a mirror when you typed this ??
    I don't have that particular disconnect.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Health care repeal will cost $230 billion

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Didn't we? How long did it take?
    How long?....
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Health care repeal will cost $230 billion

    I honestly cannot see why anyone would fear this bill, other than Insurance and Pharmaceutical companies that have profits to lose. All of the major industrial nations have such systems in place and none have collapsed into some oblivion.

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