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After some wrangling, U.S. Constitution is read in House

hazlnut said:
Why did the pages stick together?

Was he masturbating on the 10th Amendment before he came out to read?
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Thank you for this thought-provoking contribution. I can't imagine how the discussion took place without your wit here to put everything in perspective.
 
An an (admittedly somewhat poor) analogy, if a college basketball coach is lambasting his team for selfish play and tells them that they are going to start practicing ball controll, and passing, by getting back to the roots of how this game is played are you expecting him to then:

1. Work on the four corners offense with no regard to the shot clock because by god that's the roots and we gotta practice and get back to our roots without any thought given as to WHY we're donig it

or

2. Work on traditional passing drills that function within the modern shot clock rules era

If you're getting "back to your roots" to simply know your roots, then yeah...its absolutely important to go over everything

If you're getting "back to your roots" for a pratical purpose directly relating to a certain duty, then its reasonable to focus on the "roots" that actually have some sort of application to what you're able to do in the current day and age.
 
Spaceman_Spiff said:
Except that the 3/5 Compromise is still part of the US Constitution. The 14th Amendment may have nullified it, but that does not mean that the text was completely removed from the document.
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That.

Either you're reading the document you said you're going to read, or you're reading a politically correct revisionist version of it. :mrgreen:
 
the 3/5 provision was rendered dustbin data in 1863

ie, that's all ya got?

LOL!

say hi to beck
 
Spaceman_Spiff said:
Except that the 3/5 Compromise is still part of the US Constitution. The 14th Amendment may have nullified it, but that does not mean that the text was completely removed from the document.
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But, it does mean that the 3/5 compromise is no longer the law of the land. So, what's the point of reading it? Unless it's just another scheme to show how racist Americans really are.

Other than trying to paint America in a bad light, I'm curious as to why people got their panties in a knot over reading the applicable version of the Constitution.
 
Zyphlin said:
If "Bringing it back to its political roots" constitutes "Governing from a constitutionally sound basis" then reminding people or pieces of the constitution that are no longer valid and thus can't be governed from is somewhat pointless.
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There is value in showing the parts that are no longer applicable in this context is to show that there is a clear and defined method for overturning aspects of the constitution, and governing from a constitutionally sound basis isn't something set in stone.

By purposefully removing the parts that are no longer applicable, one is presneting things as though everything that is currently applicable must always remain so.

That is a misrepresentation of what is constitutionally sound.
 
disneydude said:
You are seriously going to try to argue that one state.....really one jurisdiction, Chicago is indicative of a nationwide attempt to take your guns away?
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I thought the question was something like When has anyone EVER tried to
 
Tucker Case said:
There is value in showing the parts that are no longer applicable in this context is to show that there is a clear and defined method for overturning aspects of the constitution, and governing from a constitutionally sound basis isn't something set in stone.

By purposefully removing the parts that are no longer applicable, one is presneting things as though everything that is currently applicable must always remain so.

That is a misrepresentation of what is constitutionally sound.
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Anyone in Congress that doesn't already know that, is probably too stupid to be in Congress. Whatcha think?
 
apdst said:
Other than trying to paint America in a bad light, I'm curious as to why people got their panties in a knot over reading the applicable version of the Constitution.
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Because Republicans were going to get us back on track to having a Constitutional government, and they were going to do it by reading the Constitution . . . except they didn't.
 
TacticalEvilDan said:
Because Republicans were going to get us back on track to having a Constitutional government, and they were going to do it by reading the Constitution . . . except they didn't.
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They read the Constitution that is currently the law of the land. What's the real problem with reading the Constitution?

It appears to me, that alotta Leftists don't really dig the Constitution and would have it amended into something that we no longer recognize. Or, they feelings are so raw from getting their asses handed to them, that they're going to cry about everything the Republicans do. I can appreciate the latter, but I think they picked the wrong battle to fight, this time.
 
Spaceman_Spiff said:
Except that the 3/5 Compromise is still part of the US Constitution. The 14th Amendment may have nullified it, but that does not mean that the text was completely removed from the document.
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Actually, it means that it is no longer a part of the Constitution... it, in effect, removes it from the Constitition just as an amendment ADDS something to the Constitution...
 
disneydude said:
God....please, please please don't let it be Scalia....or Thomas the Supreme Court midget.
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LOL


God's not listening to you, he's listening to me.:lamo :2wave: :lol:



Bachmann: We're going to do what the NFL does and what the baseball teams do: we're going to practice every week, if you will, our craft, which is studying and learning the Declaration, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights.
Justice Scalia has graciously agreed to kick off our class. The hour before we cast our first vote in congress, we'll meet in the Capitol, we'll have a seminar on some segment of the Constitution, we'll have a speaker, we'll have questions and answers, we'll wrap our minds around this magnificent document [and] that'll set the tone for the week while we're in Washington.
I think it's great and I'm hoping all the members of Congress will partake; it's bipartisan.
Justice Scalia Will Teach Tea Party's Constitution Class
 
Zyphlin said:
An an (admittedly somewhat poor) analogy, if a college basketball coach is lambasting his team for selfish play and tells them that they are going to start practicing ball controll, and passing, by getting back to the roots of how this game is played are you expecting him to then:

1. Work on the four corners offense with no regard to the shot clock because by god that's the roots and we gotta practice and get back to our roots without any thought given as to WHY we're donig it

or

2. Work on traditional passing drills that function within the modern shot clock rules era

If you're getting "back to your roots" to simply know your roots, then yeah...its absolutely important to go over everything

If you're getting "back to your roots" for a pratical purpose directly relating to a certain duty, then its reasonable to focus on the "roots" that actually have some sort of application to what you're able to do in the current day and age.
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if that coach were a republican congressman, he would read the team the rules of the game of basketball, pretending that was going to improve their skills
 
TacticalEvilDan said:
Because Republicans were going to get us back on track to having a Constitutional government, and they were going to do it by reading the Constitution . . . except they didn't.
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By all means... let's waste time reading the parts of the Constitution that were nullified and are now no longer law. That will help keep us on track. :rolleyes:
 
TacticalEvilDan said:
That.

Either you're reading the document you said you're going to read, or you're reading a politically correct revisionist version of it. :mrgreen:
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You agree with Beck, I don't. LOL He's going on about it right now on the radio. What an idiot!
At least he knows the 3/5 clause was a GOOD thing and not something to be embarassed about.
 
apdst said:
Anyone in Congress that doesn't already know that, is probably too stupid to be in Congress. Whatcha think?
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I absolutely agree.

but I also think there are a ton of people too stupid to be in congress that are currently in congress.
 
Tucker Case said:
I absolutely agree.

but I also think there are a ton of people too stupid to be in congress that are currently in congress.
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Well, I think the situation improved significantly, the other day.
 
Tucker Case said:
I don't see much of an improvement, but I'm not a fan of either party.
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When you look at the track record of the congress critters that are leaving, I think there's a huge improvement; by their absence, if for no other reason.
 
justabubba said:
if that coach were a republican congressman, he would read the team the rules of the game of basketball, pretending that was going to improve their skills
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You actually think basketball players don't need to know the rules ?????
 
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