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    Re: After some wrangling, U.S. Constitution is read in House

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    After some wrangling, U.S. Constitution is read in House



    You mean like the 3/5ths compromise?

    So I guess we're getting back to our Constitutional roots, we're just ignoring the parts that are too embarrassing to acknowledge.

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    Who will be pointing to this the next time a right-leaning wingnut talks about revisionism.
    Perhaps because the three-fifths compromise is no longer a part of the Constitution???
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    Re: After some wrangling, U.S. Constitution is read in House

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    According to th earticle, it was:

    If that was the goal, the entire document should have been read wihtout any editting.

    Ignoring the negative aspects of our roots is folly.
    If "Bringing it back to its political roots" constitutes "Governing from a constitutionally sound basis" then reminding people or pieces of the constitution that are no longer valid and thus can't be governed from is somewhat pointless.

    If it was a history lesson for the sake of history, you'd be absolutely correct. If its a history lesson to try and remind people they need to be legislating in accordance with, and in the confines of, the constitution, then reading the portions of the constitution that are no longer applicable is a waste of time.

    Are you suggesting there's literally only one way, and that one way is YOUR way, to be talking about the "political roots" of our country? That it must be talking about learning about the HISTORY of the constitution and can't be talking about the roots of legislating in accordance with the constitution?

    Granted, I don't rightly care either way on this. I don't think its a big deal to do it, I don't think it'd be a big deal to read it verbatim. I just don't see what there is to get worked up about here, nor do I see any notion of hypocrisy or revisionism going on. it just seems like bitching for bitchings sake.

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    Re: After some wrangling, U.S. Constitution is read in House

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Perhaps because the three-fifths compromise is no longer a part of the Constitution???
    Except that the 3/5 Compromise is still part of the US Constitution. The 14th Amendment may have nullified it, but that does not mean that the text was completely removed from the document.

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    Re: After some wrangling, U.S. Constitution is read in House

    Quote Originally Posted by zyphlin View Post
    if "bringing it back to its political roots" constitutes "governing from a constitutionally sound basis" then reminding people or pieces of the constitution that are no longer valid and thus can't be governed from is somewhat pointless.
    this...........

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    Re: After some wrangling, U.S. Constitution is read in House

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    After some wrangling, U.S. Constitution is read in House



    You mean like the 3/5ths compromise?

    So I guess we're getting back to our Constitutional roots, we're just ignoring the parts that are too embarrassing to acknowledge.

    Cowards.


    TED,
    Who will be pointing to this the next time a right-leaning wingnut talks about revisionism.
    Why did the pages stick together?

    Was he masturbating on the 10th Amendment before he came out to read?

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    Re: After some wrangling, U.S. Constitution is read in House

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Why did the pages stick together?

    Was he masturbating on the 10th Amendment before he came out to read?
    Thank you for this thought-provoking contribution. I can't imagine how the discussion took place without your wit here to put everything in perspective.
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    Re: After some wrangling, U.S. Constitution is read in House

    An an (admittedly somewhat poor) analogy, if a college basketball coach is lambasting his team for selfish play and tells them that they are going to start practicing ball controll, and passing, by getting back to the roots of how this game is played are you expecting him to then:

    1. Work on the four corners offense with no regard to the shot clock because by god that's the roots and we gotta practice and get back to our roots without any thought given as to WHY we're donig it

    or

    2. Work on traditional passing drills that function within the modern shot clock rules era

    If you're getting "back to your roots" to simply know your roots, then yeah...its absolutely important to go over everything

    If you're getting "back to your roots" for a pratical purpose directly relating to a certain duty, then its reasonable to focus on the "roots" that actually have some sort of application to what you're able to do in the current day and age.

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    Re: After some wrangling, U.S. Constitution is read in House

    Quote Originally Posted by Spaceman_Spiff View Post
    Except that the 3/5 Compromise is still part of the US Constitution. The 14th Amendment may have nullified it, but that does not mean that the text was completely removed from the document.
    That.

    Either you're reading the document you said you're going to read, or you're reading a politically correct revisionist version of it.
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    Re: After some wrangling, U.S. Constitution is read in House

    the 3/5 provision was rendered dustbin data in 1863

    ie, that's all ya got?

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    Re: After some wrangling, U.S. Constitution is read in House

    Quote Originally Posted by Spaceman_Spiff View Post
    Except that the 3/5 Compromise is still part of the US Constitution. The 14th Amendment may have nullified it, but that does not mean that the text was completely removed from the document.
    But, it does mean that the 3/5 compromise is no longer the law of the land. So, what's the point of reading it? Unless it's just another scheme to show how racist Americans really are.

    Other than trying to paint America in a bad light, I'm curious as to why people got their panties in a knot over reading the applicable version of the Constitution.
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