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    Re: After some wrangling, U.S. Constitution is read in House

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    I thought the point was to say 'here is the Constitution... here's what is Constitutional... please stick within the confines of this document when making legislation'. Seems silly to 'require' them to cover parts that are no longer 'Constitutional'.
    A lot of people act like if it's an idea the founders had, or if it's in the Constitution, it's the most awesome thing ever.

    Reminders that the founders weren't perfect and neither is the Constitution are a good thing.
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    Re: After some wrangling, U.S. Constitution is read in House

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    I thought the point was to say 'here is the Constitution... here's what is Constitutional... please stick within the confines of this document when making legislation'. Seems silly to 'require' them to cover parts that are no longer 'Constitutional'.
    According to th earticle, it was:

    The chamber's Republican leaders... had touted the reading as a way to bring the country back to its political roots.
    If that was the goal, the entire document should have been read wihtout any editting.

    Ignoring the negative aspects of our roots is folly.
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    Re: After some wrangling, U.S. Constitution is read in House

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    The 3/5ths compromise isn't a portion of our history that embarrasses you? Okay, then!
    So you think it was okay for slave owning states to use their slaves to get more representation? The South was lucky they even got that. Seeing how they didn't consider their slaves people enough to deserve legal protection they shouldn't have been able to use their slaves to get any extra representation.


    I get that it's not Constitutional. It's quite obviously not Constitutional. It is, however, a portion of the Constitution and if the point is to remind everybody of what the Constitution says so that we can work our way back to a Constitutional government we shouldn't leave stuff like this out.
    If it is not valid then what is the point of reading it? Was the 13th amendment repealed?


    I'm not a liberal. I've said so many times. That makes you a liar.
    It is quacks like a duck,acts like a duck then perhaps it is a duck.

    I do not, in fact like to ignore the intentions of our forefathers. Hypocrisy aside they had a number of good ideas I'm a really big fan of.

    I've got a pretty good understanding of how the Constitution works and why it works that way, I just think if they're going to do a song and dance about getting back to the basics they shouldn't ignore portions of our Constitutional history that they don't like.

    This is just a piss poor attempt of yours to mock and bash republicans and nothing more. Its like calling the chief of police a hypocrite for not enforcing a no spitting on the sidewalk law that was repealed.
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    Re: After some wrangling, U.S. Constitution is read in House

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    So you think it was okay for slave owning states to use their slaves to get more representation? The South was lucky they even got that. Seeing how they didn't consider their slaves people enough to deserve legal protection they shouldn't have been able to use their slaves to get any extra representation.
    Noooooooooo, I think slavery was bad and should not have been codified in the Constitution. I understand why it was, but it's still embarrassing. We should keep that embarrassment in mind.

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    If it is not valid then what is the point of reading it? Was the 13th amendment repealed?
    Answered multiple times elsewhere in this thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    This is just a piss poor attempt of yours to mock and bash republicans and nothing more. Its like calling the chief of police a hypocrite for not enforcing a no spitting on the sidewalk law that was repealed.
    It's not exactly piss-poor, and if the Democrats had pulled this stunt I would've given them exactly the same treatment.
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    Re: After some wrangling, U.S. Constitution is read in House

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    I thought the point was to say 'here is the Constitution... here's what is Constitutional... please stick within the confines of this document when making legislation'. Seems silly to 'require' them to cover parts that are no longer 'Constitutional'.
    It's good to remember our mistakes, otherwise we repeat them over and over:

    18th amendment: After one year from the ratification of this article the manufacture, sale, or transportation of intoxicating liquors within, the importation thereof into, or the exportation thereof from the United States and all territory subject to the jurisdiction thereof for beverage purposes is hereby prohibited.
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    Re: After some wrangling, U.S. Constitution is read in House

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Dems haven't passed any gun bans, nor attempted to pass other, more oppresive gun bans?

    Al Sharpton isn't trying to get the FCC to ban Rush Limbaugh?

    That's just all nasty rumors, created to smear Democrats?
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    As for Rush Limbaugh....are you really that paranoid that your idol might be taken off the air? Trust me......I don't know about Al Sharpton....but Al sharpton doesn't control the Democratic party and isn't going to get your favorite right-wing propoganda off the air.

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    Re: After some wrangling, U.S. Constitution is read in House

    I don't see a down side?

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    Re: After some wrangling, U.S. Constitution is read in House

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Explain to me why we don't require Congress to read the Constitution aloud in chambers EVERY year.

    They should have to take a test on it. More than half would fail miserably.
    Michelle Bachmann and the Tea Party Caucus are going to study it and one of Supreme Court Justices is going to give classes.
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    Re: After some wrangling, U.S. Constitution is read in House

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    I don't see a down side?

    Tim-
    Me neither. Getting back to our political grass roots doesn't have to mean remembering all the things that are today acknowledged as bad. Getting to our political grass roots can easily mean getting back to the type of politics that this country was founded on. Honest debate and what is right. After all isn't that what this country was founded on? What is right?
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    Re: After some wrangling, U.S. Constitution is read in House

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Michelle Bachmann and the Tea Party Caucus are going to study it and one of Supreme Court Justices is going to give classes.
    God....please, please please don't let it be Scalia....or Thomas the Supreme Court midget.
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