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    Re: After some wrangling, U.S. Constitution is read in House

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyroh View Post
    Quick history lesson for those that love to point this part of the constitution out. The 3/5ths compromise refers to representation in congress. The slave owners wanted full representation of slaves which they considered property. The north countered by saying if your property adds to your representation in congress than we'll count our horses and buggies and all the property we have. The 3/5ths compromise is nothing more than a mechanism to reduce the slave holders role in congress while still maintaining that the slaves are people and deserve representation. Now that oughta heat up this issue, ready, set, discuss!
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    Re: After some wrangling, U.S. Constitution is read in House

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    I know that the reading of the Constitution doesn't actually constitute a substantive legislative act.

    I'm also familiar with both the text and the meaning of the compromise.

    My point is that they're reading the abridged version rather than owning the whole thing on the one hand, while on the other hand pretending like they're doing it to get us back to our Constitutional roots.
    i noted that there was an agreement that the Constitution would be read as it is constituted today, with edits being made where changes had resulted, consistent with the Library of Congress' current copy
    however, when they read the allocation of congressional representatives they read the original rather than the current number of representatives, causing this to be other than a current version of the Constitution
    agreed, that is a minor point with little impact, other than to recognize that those who answered the question about what was to be read answered incorrectly
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    Re: After some wrangling, U.S. Constitution is read in House

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    After some wrangling, U.S. Constitution is read in House



    You mean like the 3/5ths compromise?

    So I guess we're getting back to our Constitutional roots, we're just ignoring the parts that are too embarrassing to acknowledge.

    Cowards.


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    Who will be pointing to this the next time a right-leaning wingnut talks about revisionism.
    Only if you are an ignorant fool would the 3/5ths compromise be embarrassing and make an issue of someone not reading what is no longer actually constitutional. I know why you would unintentionally make a fool out of yourself with this partisan wingnut hack thread. Liberals like yourself like to ignore the intentions of our founding forefathers and use the anti-constitutional line "The constitution is a living document" in order to avoid going through the legal constitutional route of adding,removing or restricting rights. So it may have not occurred to you that new amendments can be added to add rights or to restrict rights or to repeal old ones or why they were even originally written in the first place.
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    Re: After some wrangling, U.S. Constitution is read in House

    Its all about show. Republicans love the words of the Constitution but have little respect for what they mean.
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    Re: After some wrangling, U.S. Constitution is read in House

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Its all about show. Republicans love the words of the Constitution but have little respect for what they mean.
    The Libbos respect what the Constitution means?

    How many times have Republicans wanted to ban guns, or ban Rush Limbaugh? "Fairness Doctrine", anyone?
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    Re: After some wrangling, U.S. Constitution is read in House

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Libbos respect what the Constitution means?

    How many times have Republicans wanted to ban guns, or ban Rush Limbaugh? "Fairness Doctrine", anyone?
    Really? When have Democrats or Republicans introduced legislation to ban hand guns? Or Ban Rush Limbaugh.

    You are listening to waaay to much of the hysterics coming from your right-wing channels.

    As far as the fairness doctrine. The fairness doctrine didn't try to ban any ideas, exactly the opposite. It was designed to prevent right-wing corporations from buying up all the airwaves and monopolizing the views presented. The idea that the right-wing doesn't or shouldn't own the public airwaves is obviously foreign to you.
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    Re: After some wrangling, U.S. Constitution is read in House

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Only if you are an ignorant fool would the 3/5ths compromise be embarrassing
    The 3/5ths compromise isn't a portion of our history that embarrasses you? Okay, then!

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    and make an issue of someone not reading what is no longer actually constitutional.
    I get that it's not Constitutional. It's quite obviously not Constitutional. It is, however, a portion of the Constitution and if the point is to remind everybody of what the Constitution says so that we can work our way back to a Constitutional government we shouldn't leave stuff like this out.

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I know why you would unintentionally make a fool out of yourself with this partisan wingnut hack thread. Liberals like yourself like to ignore the intentions of our founding forefathers and use the anti-constitutional line "The constitution is a living document" in order to avoid going through the legal constitutional route of adding,removing or restricting rights. So it may have not occurred to you that new amendments can be added to add rights or to restrict rights or to repeal old ones or why they were even originally written in the first place.
    I'm not a liberal. I've said so many times. That makes you a liar.

    I do not, in fact like to ignore the intentions of our forefathers. Hypocrisy aside they had a number of good ideas I'm a really big fan of.

    I've got a pretty good understanding of how the Constitution works and why it works that way, I just think if they're going to do a song and dance about getting back to the basics they shouldn't ignore portions of our Constitutional history that they don't like.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: After some wrangling, U.S. Constitution is read in House

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Libbos respect what the Constitution means?

    How many times have Republicans wanted to ban guns, or ban Rush Limbaugh? "Fairness Doctrine", anyone?
    Both sides have taken many opportunities to strip us of our civil rights.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: After some wrangling, U.S. Constitution is read in House

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Really? When have Democrats or Republicans introduced legislation to ban hand guns? Or Ban Rush Limbaugh.

    You are listening to waaay to much of the hysterics coming from your right-wing channels.

    As far as the fairness doctrine. The fairness doctrine didn't try to ban any ideas, exactly the opposite. It was designed to prevent right-wing corporations from buying up all the airwaves and monopolizing the views presented. The idea that the right-wing doesn't or shouldn't own the public airwaves is obviously foreign to you.
    The Dems haven't passed any gun bans, nor attempted to pass other, more oppresive gun bans?

    Al Sharpton isn't trying to get the FCC to ban Rush Limbaugh?

    That's just all nasty rumors, created to smear Democrats?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: After some wrangling, U.S. Constitution is read in House

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Its all about show. Republicans love the words of the Constitution but have little respect for what they mean.
    quote of the very young year (and decade)

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