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    Re: Journal: Study linking vaccine to autism was fraud Read more: http://www.foxnews

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    This is how science is supposed to work. All knowledge is tentative and all conclusions are suspect.

    With one stipulation: you have to have informed awareness of the advantages and limitations of any given experiment before you interpose your own judgment. Keep in mind that many scientists have been disavowing this particular study for years, even before this fraud came to light.
    I know, I appreciate that fact, but if you read the article, the cases of avoidable diseases like measles has gone up since this fraud was published.
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    Re: Journal: Study linking vaccine to autism was fraud Read more: http://www.foxnews

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    Amazing! Peer reviewed science failed us? I wonder what other failures of Peer Review are out there...
    You're absolutely right, one medical journal publishing one article 13 years ago is definitely reflective of the scientific community as a whole.
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    Re: Journal: Study linking vaccine to autism was fraud Read more: http://www.foxnews

    Oh mah gwadz....a study made with a sample of 12 people was found to be flawed? I guess we don't have to take people who cold weather to disprove GW seriously anymore.
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    Re: Journal: Study linking vaccine to autism was fraud Read more: http://www.foxnews

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    I know, I appreciate that fact, but if you read the article, the cases of avoidable diseases like measles has gone up since this fraud was published.
    I view it more as a failure of the media than peer-reviewed science. Peer-review has been pretty critical since publishing. The theory received more promotion than it deserved.
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    Re: Journal: Study linking vaccine to autism was fraud Read more: http://www.foxnews

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Amazing! Peer reviewed science failed us? I wonder what other failures of Peer Review are out there...
    And what is the alternative to science and logic? Oh yea religious dogma based on 2000 year old writings when people thought the planet was flat.
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    Re: Autism-vaccine study was 'fraud,' journal says

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    Re: Autism-vaccine study was 'fraud,' journal says

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    The anti-vaccination movement is one that continues to baffle me. There is literally ZERO solid evidence for it to stand on and what evidence there is crumbles under ANY sort of scrutiny...yet people still buy into it.
    there were charges against Wakefield's study very early on here and the Govt tried to make the case for the MMR vaccine but it's not easy to be rational about what you do or do not put into your child's body when they are so helpless. My ex wife and I read the literature at the time and had our two boys vaccinated - but reading the literature still didn't dispell all fear as the needles went in.

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    Re: Journal: Study linking vaccine to autism was fraud Read more: http://www.foxnews

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    This is how science is supposed to work: all knowledge is tentative and all conclusions are suspect.
    ...except for global warming.

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    Re: Journal: Study linking vaccine to autism was fraud Read more: http://www.foxnews

    I would just like to say that I got mumps and my sister got ruebella from our vaccine. That is all.
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    Re: Journal: Study linking vaccine to autism was fraud Read more: http://www.foxnews

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    This is how science is supposed to work: all knowledge is tentative and all conclusions are suspect.

    With one stipulation: you have to have informed awareness of the advantages and limitations of any given experiment before you interpose your own judgment. Keep in mind that many scientists have been disavowing this particular study for years, even before this fraud came to light.
    Scientists are supposed to lie? That's how it works? Scientists lied about global warming, too. Is that ok by you?

    Scientists are probably more dangerous than preachers.
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