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    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I completely agree with you. And this case is also not about the child, but about the parents who ARE responsible for any damage that the child causes to property. And for them to defend the child by not agreeing to the girl having to write an essay? That pretty much says it all.

    IMHO, this is not so much about a child causing mischief, but the parents not teaching responsibility, nor accepting it themselves either. Let the parents suffer the consequences. Whatever the judge decides, it will be an appropriate punishment for them.

    See, the fact this reached the level of requiring a Jude at all, makes my point. Kids + Wet Cement = Names, initials... it happens. The MOST those cops should have done was tell the kids to run along.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    The MOST those cops should have done was tell the kids to run along.

    So you condone criminal damage to property? It's really no different from spray painting the side of someone's house. In fact, it's friggin' identical to scratching one's initials on someone else's siding with a rock.

    Would you also say that the cops should say "Run along" top a kid carving their names into the side of someone's house?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    So you condone criminal damage to property? It's really no different from spray painting the side of someone's house. In fact, it's friggin' identical to scratching one's initials on someone else's siding with a rock.

    Would you also say that the cops should say "Run along" top a kid carving their names into the side of someone's house?
    I guess we just see this differently Tucker.

    Wet Cement fascinates children. Has since the first time someone poured it. There is a difference between children, lacking judgement and understanding that wet cement isn't really a play toy, and older teens/young adults spray painting graffiti. Most kids know that CARVING your name into a house is bad, but wet cement...

    It's wet.

    Try to think like a kid for half a second here, and use some judgment.
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    I like graffiti, as long as it is done to commercial or municipal property. That would include wet cement in the sidewalk of a middle school. Yes, it is illegal and if you get caught you must pay. The trick is to not get caught. Graffiti is modern urban art.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    I guess we just see this differently Tucker.

    Wet Cement fascinates children. Has since the first time someone poured it. There is a difference between children, lacking judgement and understanding that wet cement isn't really a play toy, and older teens/young adults spray painting graffiti. Most kids know that CARVING your name into a house is bad, but wet cement...

    It's wet.

    Try to think like a kid for half a second here, and use some judgment.
    It's not a matter of thinking like a kid. Parents and adults aern't supposed to think like kids in order to excuse their kids bad behavior. That kind of mentality teaches kids that doing certain things is OK, when they aren't. Instead, parents and adults need to teach kids the right way to go about things.

    The fact that this father is trying to prevent his daughter from having consequences is proof positive that some parents today are clueless about teaching their kids personal responsibility.

    Are kids going to damage cement? Sure. Even if you teach them it's wrong, they'll do it. They're kids. But when they know it's wrong, they'll deal with the consequences of their bad behavior.

    When I was that age, and I ****ed someone's **** up, I was put to work for the person who owned the property I damaged.

    If this was my kid, I'd go and tear up the portion of concrete that my kid screwed up and have him/her haul away all of the debris and help me pour and finish the new slab. THEN the kid would have some idea of what they ****ed up exactly and they might have a little more respect for things.

    But when you teach them it's OK by preventing them from dealing with the consequences of their criminal behavior, they'll not only continue to commit these types of crimes, but they'll also act like little spoiled brats for the rest of their lives. They'll be under the impression that they are special, when they aren't.
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    Re: Sixth-Grade Girl Has Date in Court After Writing in Wet Cement Read more: http:/

    One of the officers said, "'let’s put these kids in the back of the car; we’re bringing them to headquarters,'" according to Zierdt. "And then me and my friends started crying our eyes out,” My9News reports.
    This is where I have an issue - they practically arrested the children and detained them. Did they read their rights in the process?

    If they hadn't done this - but pursued reprisal of $250 - that would be reasonable.

    However - if the Dad was so concerned - then why doesn't he just pay the $250 and get it over with? They committed a wrong by arresting the girls - but he's just continuing it. The girls would NOT be going to court if he'd pay the fine and get that part over with.

    I blame the father directly for the court-proceeding. This would not be happening if he didn't suddenly become a stubborn ass. . . Shame on him for putting these children through this. Haven't they been through ti enough, already?

    The very fact that he refuses to cooperate further actually jeopardizes the case against the police - they DO have a legitimate case concerning their arrest and those initial actions against them . . . the father's actions serve to complicate it further.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    This is where I have an issue - they practically arrested the children and detained them. Did they read their rights in the process?

    If they hadn't done this - but pursued reprisal of $250 - that would be reasonable.

    However - if the Dad was so concerned - then why doesn't he just pay the $250 and get it over with? They committed a wrong by arresting the girls - but he's just continuing it. The girls would NOT be going to court if he'd pay the fine and get that part over with.

    I blame the father directly for the court-proceeding. This would not be happening if he didn't suddenly become a stubborn ass. . . Shame on him for putting these children through this. Haven't they been through ti enough, already?

    The very fact that he refuses to cooperate further actually jeopardizes the case against the police - they DO have a legitimate case concerning their arrest and those initial actions against them . . . the father's actions serve to complicate it further.
    I see nothing wrong with taking the kids to the police station. The kids committed a crime and teaching them what happens when crimes are committed is useful.
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    Re: Sixth-Grade Girl Has Date in Court After Writing in Wet Cement Read more: http:/

    Well... should people be able to run around writing their name in cement? No. Should it be a legal issue? If it has to be. This is an issue, like graffiti, that I think should be dealt with a delicate combination of legal and familial reprocussions.

    ie: the object of charging the girl shouldn't be to punish her, but for HER wellbeing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    This is where I have an issue - they practically arrested the children and detained them. Did they read their rights in the process?

    If they hadn't done this - but pursued reprisal of $250 - that would be reasonable.

    However - if the Dad was so concerned - then why doesn't he just pay the $250 and get it over with? They committed a wrong by arresting the girls - but he's just continuing it. The girls would NOT be going to court if he'd pay the fine and get that part over with.

    I blame the father directly for the court-proceeding. This would not be happening if he didn't suddenly become a stubborn ass. . . Shame on him for putting these children through this. Haven't they been through ti enough, already?

    The very fact that he refuses to cooperate further actually jeopardizes the case against the police - they DO have a legitimate case concerning their arrest and those initial actions against them . . . the father's actions serve to complicate it further.
    my speculation is that the father is trying to make a (valid) point
    notice the substantial policing and judicial resources which the government is willing to expend to prosecute this very minor matter
    it would be surprising if his intent - and his reason to refuse to resolve this informally - is to put on public display the government's willingness to disproportionately waste its policing and judicial resources on such a trivial issue while real crime is allowed to thrive

    i do look forward to watching the police haul off the little girl to a prison, in handcuffs, because she was unable to personally pay her $250 fine
    or is anyone actually expecting the father to be willing to come up with it

    does the government have the authority to do what it has done? certainly
    is proceeding in this manner an acceptable use of limited taxpayer resources? my inclination is to side with the father. from reading other posts, it would seem many find it acceptable to waste taxpayer dollars in this manner
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    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    I like graffiti, as long as it is done to commercial or municipal property. That would include wet cement in the sidewalk of a middle school. Yes, it is illegal and if you get caught you must pay. The trick is to not get caught. Graffiti is modern urban art.

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