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    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    See, the fact this reached the level of requiring a Jude at all, makes my point. Kids + Wet Cement = Names, initials... it happens. The MOST those cops should have done was tell the kids to run along.
    I'm in full agreement with you. The kids were just being kids. The cops should have gave them a good scare and sent them on their way. I would guess a 9 year old (was it 9?) may not have even realized she was doing something illegal. I imagine all these kids saw was "fun"

    However, once busted.....the dad didn't do his child any favors by fighting the punishment. It was an opportunity to teach her something important. Dad failed big IMO.


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    Re: Sixth-Grade Girl Has Date in Court After Writing in Wet Cement Read more: http:/

    Quote Originally Posted by missypea View Post
    I'm in full agreement with you. The kids were just being kids. The cops should have gave them a good scare and sent them on their way. I would guess a 9 year old (was it 9?) may not have even realized she was doing something illegal. I imagine all these kids saw was "fun"

    However, once busted.....the dad didn't do his child any favors by fighting the punishment. It was an opportunity to teach her something important. Dad failed big IMO.
    I'm nto even touching what the dad did. I THINK he's pissed what should have been handled one way, blew up into this mess.
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    Write, Kelzie, WRITE!... pregnancy is no excuse for such a mistake!
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    Quote Originally Posted by missypea View Post
    I'm in full agreement with you. The kids were just being kids. The cops should have gave them a good scare and sent them on their way. I would guess a 9 year old (was it 9?) may not have even realized she was doing something illegal. I imagine all these kids saw was "fun"

    However, once busted.....the dad didn't do his child any favors by fighting the punishment. It was an opportunity to teach her something important. Dad failed big IMO.
    They were 12. Even at 9, I would hope a kid knows that permanently damaging someone's property was wrong.

    They did get a good scare. That would have been it for all concerned if one dad wasn't being a moron.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelzie View Post
    They were 12. Even at 9, I would hope a kid knows that permanently damaging someone's property was wrong.

    They did get a good scare. That would have been it for all concerned if one dad wasn't being a moron.
    ok, I re-read the article. The girl in question was 11 and it looks like they were etching their names in the sidewalk. So I stand by what I said. I'm not convinced that an 11 year old would know that etching her name on a sidewalk was a crime.


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    Quote Originally Posted by missypea View Post
    ok, I re-read the article. The girl in question was 11 and it looks like they were etching their names in the sidewalk. So I stand by what I said. I'm not convinced that an 11 year old would know that etching her name on a sidewalk was a crime.
    Just because a parent doesn't teach their kids morality doesn't mean the kids get a pass for illegal behavior. I knew at 5 that writing my name in cement was wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mass Voter View Post
    I say they shouldn't be punished. How does a 12 yr old know it's illegal to write your name in wet cement? Was there a sign posted? For God's sake, how could this be crime? It's a waste of taxpayer dollars and court time. It's nothing more than legal bullying. Families do this quite often in their own cement.
    Hey, I like that answer. May I send my grandkids kids over to your property to vandalize it a a lttle? I think I will do that anyways. After all, you don't have a sign posted on your property saying "NO VANDALISM".

    All kidding aside, forcing families to pay for the damage that their kids do is not legal bullying. It is called getting those responsible for property damage to others to compensate the owners of that property for the damage that THEIR family did to it. If it is a public sidewalk, there is still an owner. It's called the taxpayers, and as a taxpayer myself, I'll be damned if MY taxes are going to have to foot the bill for what some irresponsible's dad's kid did to it.

    Whether or not the 12 year old kid knew she was breaking the law is not the point. The point is that damage was done, and that compensation must be made. It's called accepting responsibility.

    Finally, I am really confused as to why you have yourself listed as Libertarian, since a fundamental premise of Libertarianism is that rights are based on property.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelzie View Post
    Just because a parent doesn't teach their kids morality doesn't mean the kids get a pass for illegal behavior. I knew at 5 that writing my name in cement was wrong.
    That's funny, because I didn't. I grew up etching my initials into concrete because I had a dad who poured concrete all the time. By 11 I knew exactly how "set" it should be to make sure my initials stayed visible through the curing process.

    A crime to etch initials into concrete? Uh no. I sure am glad to know that our congresswomen can get a hole blown through her head because the cops are out stopping 11yo kids from putting their initials in concrete. Where were the cops during the shooting? Checking all the wet concrete in the area for kids?

    That's good use of our police force, isn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    That's funny, because I didn't. I grew up etching my initials into concrete because I had a dad who poured concrete all the time. By 11 I knew exactly how "set" it should be to make sure my initials stayed visible through the curing process.

    A crime to etch initials into concrete? Uh no. I sure am glad to know that our congresswomen can get a hole blown through her head because the cops are out stopping 11yo kids from putting their initials in concrete. Where were the cops during the shooting? Checking all the wet concrete in the area for kids?

    That's good use of our police force, isn't it?
    Um yes it is. Unless it's your daddy's cement on his private property, it is considered vandalism in all fifty states. Obviously he raised you with a proper respect for others property.

    And your attempt to tie this to the assassination attempt is bewildering, to say the least.
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