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    Re: Sixth-Grade Girl Has Date in Court After Writing in Wet Cement Read more: http:/

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    I never said they shouldn't be punished or that consequences were not appropriate.

    I'm saying this time, it was inappropriately handled.
    I say they shouldn't be punished. How does a 12 yr old know it's illegal to write your name in wet cement? Was there a sign posted? For God's sake, how could this be crime? It's a waste of taxpayer dollars and court time. It's nothing more than legal bullying. Families do this quite often in their own cement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Essentially, you called me a fraud because you are basing your time estimates on the assumption that too much water was added.

    What would your time estimates be if you were assuming the correct amount of water is added?
    No, any decent pour of concrete can be worked for several hours. Like I already said, how do you think huge concrete pours are done ?? It takes several hours to even get all the concrete in the forms sometimes. I've seen concrete pours where the concrete trucks were lined up around the block waiting their turn to pour.

    And maybe calling you a fraud was a bit strong, just not as informed as you would have everyone believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mass Voter View Post
    How does a 12 yr old know it's illegal to write your name in wet cement?
    It's the parents job to teach them that they don't **** with other people's property.


    Families do this quite often in their own cement.
    The key phrase here is "their own".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    No, any decent pour of concrete can be worked for several hours. Like I already said, how do you think huge concrete pours are done ?? It takes several hours to even get all the concrete in the forms sometimes. I've seen concrete pours where the concrete trucks were lined up around the block waiting their turn to pour.
    Worked for several hours is a far cry from "after it is finished". My question was specifically after finishing, not after first pour. How long after that point for a sidewalk using an appropriate amount of water?



    And maybe calling you a fraud was a bit strong, just not as informed as you would have everyone believe.
    I'm curious. As a concrete tester, how much experience do you have actually finishing the concrete?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Worked for several hours is a far cry from "after it is finished". My question was specifically after finishing, not after first pour. How long after that point for a sidewalk using an appropriate amount of water?
    Do you actually believe that concrete magically becomes hard immediately after it is finished ??? Maybe my first assessment of you was correct.



    I'm curious. As a concrete tester, how much experience do you have actually finishing the concrete?
    I've finished some myself and supervised the installation of millions of yards by others.

    Any more questions ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Do you actually believe that concrete magically becomes hard immediately after it is finished ???
    No. I know that in order to finish it, you have to wait for it to set up a bit. that takes time. thus, by virtue of simple math, the time available when the pour begins is going to be less than the time available after it is finished.



    I've finished some myself and supervised the installation of millions of yards by others.

    Any more questions ??
    If you were supervising the installation, how is it that they are adding water after you had finished your slump test if your job was to make sure that they didn't add too much water?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    No. I know that in order to finish it, you have to wait for it to set up a bit. that takes time. thus, by virtue of simple math, the time available when the pour begins is going to be less than the time available after it is finished.





    If you were supervising the installation, how is it that they are adding water after you had finished your slump test if your job was to make sure that they didn't add too much water?
    If I was supervising, no water was added. If I was only testing, they could do what they wanted after I finished the test.

    Comprende ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    If I was supervising, no water was added. If I was only testing, they could do what they wanted after I finished the test.

    Comprende ??
    Why are you suddenly supervising concrete instalation when initially you've been testing concrete for over 30 years."

    I'm starting to think you are the fraud here. I don't think you've supervised ****.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Why are you suddenly supervising concrete instalation when initially you've been testing concrete for over 30 years."

    I'm starting to think you are the fraud here. I don't think you've supervised ****.
    Let me say this slowly so you'll understand.....

    I've worked with concrete and concrete contractors, as well as most other types of contractors for over 30 years.

    Sometimes in the past, my only responsiblity was to test the concrete, on other projects I supervised and inspected the actual installation. Some GCs wanted me for testing only, others wanted more involvement.

    Understand now ??? You really haven't worked in construction at all have you, at least in major commercial construction??

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    Re: Sixth-Grade Girl Has Date in Court After Writing in Wet Cement Read more: http:/

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Why are you suddenly supervising concrete instalation when initially you've been testing concrete for over 30 years."

    I'm starting to think you are the fraud here. I don't think you've supervised ****.

    I don't think you've laid any concrete outside of your dads backyard.

    Wet Cement isn't marred by a little touch up after it's been laid and some kid writes her name in it.

    The problem comes when it's reached that "tacky" state where it takes some effort to put the name in. As long as it hasn't started to actually harden, you can repair most damage with a little work.
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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